Belgium announced that it is considering recognizing the state of Palestine, vowing to impose sanctions against Israeli occupation forces due to its genocidal war on Gaza.

  • Knightfox@lemmy.one
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    10 months ago

    I kinda wish there was more discussion about the long term outcomes. I personally don’t think a two state option is going to work, especially those that hinge on control of Jerusalem. An independent Palestinian state could be established, but would almost certainly be controlled by Hamas or other like minded groups.

    Hamas believes in a two state solution so far as it gains territory, but I think that as soon as that is accomplished the long term plan would be to eventually destroy Israel and make a Reunified Palestine.

    If this is true then there will never be peace until either Palestine or Israel is utterly destroyed.

    Conversely, if Israel doesn’t just take over Palestine completely things are likely to continue as they have since the 60’s. Hamas does a terrorist attack, Israel responds by blowing up a school, rinse and repeat forever because the groups in control of each side are fucking extremist conservative monsters that believe their magical space daddy is right.

    I’m not making excuses for the atrocities committed by Israel or Hamas, I’m just laying out the road map for the next 100 years. If you had to pick between Hamas (or Hamas like) controlled Palestine or Zionist controlled Israel which would you prefer?

    I guess there is a third and fourth option, the third option is to have no opinion and whatever happens happens. The fourth option would be to, somehow, maintain the status quo and wait till a time where both sides stop believing in the extremist religious dogma. The fourth option could be something like a UN occupation of Israel Palestine to prevent the two sides from killing each other?

    EDIT: Also, if you look at the proposed maps for a two state solution you should already know that a two state solution wouldn’t work, it’s like if Cold War Germany had a baby with the Michigan UP and somehow the offspring was even worse.

  • lemmylommy@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Great idea. Show every separatist movement in the world that a day of unrestrained terrorism, including murder, rape and baking babies gets rewarded.

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      11 months ago

      As compared to a month of unrestrained terrorism with multiple times more babies being murdered?

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      10 months ago

      Terrorism is the war of the poor
      Hold up a mirror so the script get flipped
      Cause when it’s in reverse it ain’t wrong no more
      Warfare’s the terrorism of the rich

      Who’s the true guerilla
      When the bomb on your body killing innocent civilians
      But a life is a life and a killer is a killer
      You’re at a desk chillin’ push a button kill a million

      See the anguish of the parents
      When they’re carrying the body of the baby that they cherish
      When innocent people perish
      It’s a very thin line between a soldier and a terrorist

      • Brother Ali, Mourning in America
    • Annoyed_🦀 🏅@monyet.cc
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      10 months ago

      That’s how USA came to be. And Ireland. And Haiti. And France. And many other country today that used to be ruled under a colonist.

      Not justify murdering, but lets not pretend that a lot of country today did not go through guerrilla warfare to get independence. If Zionist didn’t oppress them, 7th October incident will not happen.

    • bamboo@lemm.ee
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      10 months ago

      Palestine is not separatist. Its the pre-colonial inhabitants fighting back against settler colonialism terror and asserting their right to an independent state and freedom.