Wow, and thats why I don’t trust them with FiveM. They will run it into the ground so people can float back to their shitty version of GTA Online
Really sad. GTA Online in principle sounds so cool, but it’s such a shitty execution. I’m sure if modded servers were encouraged I’d find something to my liking but the way this rotten piece of shit company treats modders is just despicable, and always has been.
You say “shitty”; they say “lucrative”.
A lot of stuff is Iike that. Ultimate Team in Madden or FIFA, without the monetization, could potentially be one hell of a game mode (though also maybe hard to balance). The idea of being able to build out a team to your personal preferences and play style and match up against others head to head is awesome.
But “fuck you, we want users dropping $10k on their team”, so we can’t have nice things.
I believe my last time playing FIFA was on the PSX. I vaguely heard something about loot box style booster packs to get players I think? Imagine Nintendo would do that with Pokemon, and all the good & rare ones would be super rare, but you could of course buy packs for real money. 🎰
That’s basically what ultimate team is in practice.
If it had no cash involved and was either tuned to a level where a normal person could build a team that was competitive at the high end in a month or so (since it is, ultimately, an annual game) or you just had a budget and could sign who you wanted (based on “market value” that was set based on overall rating and position or that fluctuated with how many people had a guy on their roster), it could be awesome.
But yeah, it’s basically a card game (that I think also has cards expire, though I don’t play it at all) that’s designed to milk whales for cash. And they replaced a lot of the normal Madden tournaments you could win money playing to use this nonsense mode instead.
The only semi-saving grace is that it’s mostly self contained. There are obnoxious ads for it, and other game modes haven’t seen the development work they should because they spend most of the non-engine work on that nonsense, but you can still just play online head to head of a great football sim if you tune out the nonsense.
It’s super scummy and I would love to see legal involvement shut it all down. Lootboxes are unregulated gambling and in sports games specifically they’re very obviously targeting kids.
I lied. One more obnoxious probable side effect: FIFA has new anticheat that’s Windows only and I’m guessing the new Madden might also.
Yeah. I already don’t do trading card games because of this. Having an expiration date on the cards sounds even dumber. Kinda sad how everything nowadays has to get milked into oblivion. Really kills the fun of many games, but unfortunately people still buy into it. Reminds me also how “micro” transactions ended up ruining the mmorpg genre. Everything is just so over-commercialized nowadays (same for the internet).
So I think it was “games played” “contracts” and there were ways to earn extensions through normal play when I briefly played the single player part a while back. I recognized the giant trap for what it was and bailed and am not sure the current state, but if it did exist and is scummy and makes them more money, I’d be surprised if they walked it back.
I thought this was going to be “they added new lines to the main characters using AI to fake their voices” and that would have been reasonable.
But I see no mention of that. It looks like someone just made a story that you can play in their world and they’re being douchebags again.
I mean even then, its odd but I don’t see a problem if modders aren’t selling the mod as a “expansion” to users. Ai voices are iffy but they can bring so much cool things to the modding scene. The biggest problem is when large corporations like Rockstar/Take two/etc start using them to replace actual voice actors. A modder isn’t going to have the money to pay an A list voice actor to voice act in their mod
Edit: I do think it does cross a bit of a line if said mod is a sex mod but realistically that isn’t a logical difference between that and a normal mod but it does feel like its crossing a line.
I’m in other topics arguing that training on copyrighted content is not infringement in any way, but I think using someone’s likeness is different and probably not legal, because there are separate laws there.
You can usually get away with it if you have deniability, but I don’t think straight up adding lines to characters gives you any way to argue that.
Its iffy isn’t it? Like we have to remember video game mods are a whole can of worms and they are plainly in a gray area for many regions. Say for instance you have a mod where you have a party member who was modded in who was something like John Wick, Indiana Jones, Princess Leia, Luke Skywalker, Macho man Randy Savage, etc. Some of these mods would likely rip audio from other source material or they can be impersonation but you are taking someone’s “likeness” in a similar fashion. Is it just a step too far because we are copying a voice? I’m 100% for modding but we have to be aware it is on pretty shakey ground. Its also hard since some voice actors do have a ton of range and would it really count as “stealing” someone’s likeness if you are copying a voice of a character they have played but you aren’t copying their regular speaking voice
I understand why people fear AI but I just think when its being used by hobbyists its a bit different compared to a company doing it especially when the hobbyist isn’t doing it for commercial gain. Like the recent outrage about a fan animation of scooby doo using AI voices where an actual voice actor sent a hate mob and trying to blacklist the person for daring to have a shoestring budget and make a silly non serious fan episode of scooby doo.
Edit: It seems crazy to see someone dismiss a person’s hard work just because 1 element isn’t up to snuff. I don’t agree with people hating the concept of “AI art” but this person did a full 10 minute 3d rendered retro style felt/puppet animation but the voice acting is the massive hang up and seeing their work dismisses because of it is infuriating.
Yes, those are also illegal. The character belongs to someone. TakeTwo has no rights to tell you not to use Luke Skywalker. Disney does.
That is quite the fucking interesting take. I guess props for being consistent but those style of mods are typically seen as one of the best type of mods. Massive overhauls that bring one game into another universe take a ton of work and have worked as a basis to work from. Hell Total Warhammer may not have existed without the Call of Warhammer from Medieval 2. I just fundamentally think the world is a far better place when fans who aren’t making money can work on projects that would never get the go ahead to continue in a commercial setting.
If they are not making money on the mod, it’s possible you might be able to get away under a fair use argument, especially if the character skills were some sort of parody.
Although that’s definitely not a legal battle I would want against Disney’s lawyers.
I stopped modding back in GTAIV because of Rockstar’s bullshit. They nearly got my channel deleted age have always been dicks about modding, which is doubly upsetting when you see how greedy and stale they’ve become with the games.
Remember when Rockstar was one of the most respected and prestigious developers? Good times.
How the fuck are they allowed to do that?
lawyers and 0 ethics or morals
That’s not surprising, I was asking how does the law allow them to do so.
If they don’t use anything from GTA 5 in their mod I doubt so but high powered lawyers are scary and you don’t need to even have a valid case to sue someone. It’s the same thing nintendo does it’s their ip so they get their lawyers to send out dmca’s and threats and people cave.
Common Triple A L.
