I think the title speaks for itself.
EDIT: UPDATE: So apparently the former r/jailbait mod that is The CEO purged the sub’s mods and forced the sub to re-reopen under the old rules.
Mission failed! We’ll get them next time!
EDIT2: aaaaaaand the sub’s archived and no longer accepts new submissions. The garbage fire keeps going…
Reddit is only valuable because of the content users provide. If you don’t post valuable content, the site is worthless. Reddit can force subs back open, but they can’t force users to submit the content that makes the site valuable to begin with.
This is what Reddit forgot. They don’t implicitly provide any value, it’s the community that provides the value. Reddit is just the place where people happen to post.
So…do we know if Reddit iself is behind flooding subs with comments about how mods are being jerks and hurting the communities pointlessly? It’s weird, the same kinds of comments in every sub I’m in. Also lots of comments about how Lemmy is too complicated. 😆
Given how much they have lied about already and the crap Huffman has pulled in the past, I would not doubt it in the least. I am sure they are doing all sorts of mind-games crap like this to try and keep users from fleeing. They have to be freaking out right about now.
All I can do as a user is take my content and time elsewhere. Which is why I’m here. Hoping that like has happened on mastodon, we will slowly move past the “Reddit news” phase and just transition into people contributing to communities and building apps for Lemmy/Kbin.
I used to go to the /r/nfl free talk threads and the day after it opened HUNDREDS of new accounts were posting talking about how the mods were pussies and blah blah.
It felt fucking surreal like 2016 Russian bot astroturfing all over again.
I’ve suspected Reddit’s ownership of running bots on their own platform for awhile. This feels like confirmation, to me.
There have been screenshots of pro-admin/anti-mod comments that were clearly written by chatGPT (e.g. including the “as a neural network” or whatever boilerplate). They could be fakes or false flags, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they were real.
The “Lemmy is too complicated” part I can believe is organic from normie Redittors, though.
i feel like speez is the ultimate reddit troll… a weird embodiment of the negative aspects of the spirit of the site.
maybe more subs should fight with this. it is kinda funny. i would love to see reddit flop from this.
Not just that but moderation curating that content prevents the site from enshittifying and degenerating into sludge.
People complain about mods but without mods you get essentially a forum where every poster is ChatGPT.
You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink.
They are clearly itching to ban NSFW content site wide (paid API doesn’t even include NSFW posts). This sort of thing might make a good excuse.
But at the same time, who is going to enforce that? The unpaid moderators you just fired? LOL
Why does reddit consolidating all nsfw content delivery under its website and first party app suggest they want to stop NSFW content?
They don’t want to deal with the legal implications of it. Spez has said ad nauseum that they don’t want to risk 3PA providing NSFW content to users that Reddit is not allowed to serve because they don’t want to be held responsible for that. Especially now that some US states are requiring actual ID verification for 18+ content.
While Spez is a lying weasel, I don’t doubt that Reddit is worried about NSFW-related lawsuits, bad press, and ad revenue impact.
And, the next step after having control of the content is to further restrict it.
Yeah, I simultaneously don’t blame them, and suspect a high amount of their traffic comes from NSFW forums. Allegedly Spez was a /r/Jailbait mod and if so, eww, he should have known better.
I wouldn’t blame them for trying to find a way to monetize the NSFW content, because it’s become a dumping ground for Onlyfans promotion.
A lot of their users would leave.
It was why spez championed subs like /r/jailbait staying open until they got bad publicity in the mainstream press.
I support their decision. If admins are going to be dicks, then so be it. I hope they’ll enjoy it.
if admins are going to be dicks, then let every subreddit of reddit be filled with dicks
In some cases, in a very literal sense.
I fear for the fate of other subreddits who may also be forced open.
Mine is closed. But considering it has under 500 subscribers…
… Well, let’s just say if Spez forced mine to open, then the site would literally be on fire.
‘interesting as fuck’ sounds a lot different to someone from India
It’s a porn sub and it’s more inclusive now, unless Reddit wants to keep discriminating against sex workers.
I like this more than what r/piracy and r/memes did, (especially r/piracy^) as the content now being produced in those subs is still “quality” content that won’t deter users from Reddit.
What needs to be done, (assuming Reddit mods refuse to risk giving up their power) is to pollute the homepage and r/all with so much crap that people refuse to use the website.
^ r/piracy rant, taken from my Reddit comment: (made before switching to lemmy)
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You have given up the protest.
You are helping Reddit twofold: Continuing to provide content, (even John Oliver content is still content) and removing unwanted content. (The discussion of digital piracy)
At this point you might as well remove the megathread as well.
I honestly just found about Lemmy and signed up because I noticed the quality of content on Reddit (especially /r/all) took a nose dive.
Even in the comments so much nonsense and hate today.
It’s good to see another refugee! Hope this place fills that space for you that Reddit has left empty.
Welcome! if you’re new to the fediverse, I have a quick intro stickied in this sub. The main difference is looking for communities across different instances, not just on lemmy.world.
What is piracy and memes doing? I haven’t been back to reddit since last week (except to steal content and bring it here).
r/piracy is only allowing pictures of John Oliver, and r/memes is only allowing medieval themed posts.
Haha! I gotta say, medieval themed posts is a little broad. I think there’s too much room for variety there.
It’s not GOOD content though. That’s the point.
Keep turning reddit into a shitshow and you’ll keep hemorrhaging users.
This is epic level malicious compliance. Best way to run a SFW sub into the ground is opening it up to NSFW content.
I love how Mods Tell they are “forced” what is reddit gonna Do otherwise? Dont pay them?
Oh wait…
People get suckered into the sunk-costs fallacy all of the time, and managers of large communities are going to be extra prone to it when they’re told they’ll have “their communities” taken away from them.
Remember, these people are fighting to “save Reddit”. They see the possibility of having corporate friendly scabs take over as a community-destroying and a Reddit destroying proposition.
The event horizon of a black hole is the 2-dimensional surface across which the possibility of turning back is eliminated. At that point, space and time become so twisted that there is no longer an “outwards” direction. Every road leads in. But in supermassive black holes, that event horizon is so far away from the centre that the actual tidal forces – the forces which pull things apart when they’re near large gravity sources – are remarkably weak. You would not notice the difference between being 1 km above the event horizon and 1 km beneath it. If you weren’t being careful, you could cross that event horizon without ceremony and without realizing you’d doomed yourself.
This is how it is with big services, too. The thing that makes them irrelevant happens long before revenues or usage decline. In fact, there’s likely still growth! But there’ll be an inflection point in the acceleration that those who don’t know what to look for won’t even notice. Then it could take months, or even years, for things to turn around and decay into nothing of value.
These mods are trying to save something that has already experienced its killing blow. Something that will cease being what it was long before it ceases to be. Something that has already quietly – though not too quietly – slipped past the event horizon.
The hard scifi nerd in me appreciated that metaphor.
I would like to say that this analogy owns.
I really hope this leads to actual change. Subreddits are becoming meaningless to visit and frustrating for normal users, so hopefully they just stop using reddit altogether.
I already seen a bunch of comments like “why are mods doing this, it’s hurting my and other users experience” and I’m sitting here like that’s kind of the point haha. Reddit relies on all those mods to curate those subs and so now they’re gonna to do it in a way to make the experience less appealing for them and for advertisers. Like it sucks but then again you are using a site heavily reliant on volunteers who are near universally upset by the recent changes
The sub is now /r/InterestingANDFuck. I’m sure this is worse for Spez than the John Oliver sub changes, which I also approve of. Everyone knows advertisers love NSFW content being just out there for anybody to stumble upon.
Edit: Forgot an “ing” in the new sub name.
@Kombat Yes, it’s nice to see the funny rules some subs are coming up with, including all the John Oliver stuff, but I’d like to see more of them just get rid of their rules and allow porn or whatever people want to post. I think that would be much more economically damaging to the company, especially after the mainstream media starts describing Reddit as a porn site.
Yeah, no rules is definitely the way to hurt Reddit as a company, but I can see why some mods aren’t as willing to go full no rules quite just yet. They’re likely still holding onto hopes that they’ll be able to return to business as usual and it’s easier to recover from a flood of memes than it is from being a porn sub.
That being said, I imagine we’ll see this even more come next month.
I read too that going no rules is basically abandoning moderating and giving Reddit more ‘legitimate’ reason to replace the mods.
They have 1 rule technically and are still going to moderate for reddit policies/rules. I’m assuming people are just saying “no rules” as shorthand.
