“I want to read comment sections on anime episodes, I must know what anime fans have to say” - statements dreamed up by the utterly Deranged
There have been several shows that I’ve watched on CR that have been made a lot better by being able to read the comments section. Either because it’s One Piece and there’s always one guy giving you the timestamp to skip the recap or because the series I’m watching is actually pretty bad and a bunch of people are making jokes at the shows expense.
It’s been rare that I’ve seen someone on CR be overly negative or toxic without getting shutdown fast. It’s usually pretty wholesome and fun.
Hey! I’m offended!
That was one of My favorite things about Crunchyroll. I love going through the comments after finishing a series and seeing what others were thinking. I know anime fans can be pretty crazy, but I very rarely saw toxic comments. It was mostly people talking about a shared experience and was surprisingly wholesome the majority of the time. I even got some good recommendations about what to watch next because of it too
Just to hazard a guess, it might be pretty closely moderated to keep the toxicity down. That might just be costing Crunchyroll more than they think it’s worth.
this is exactly it; anytime you see a really wholesome comment section, it’s because they have a team to actually moderate it which costs time and money
Never really thought about that but that makes a lot of sense.
This is crunchyroll, it was probably not moderated at all.
They banned someone for a few weeks who’d comment Dub time on dubs after some weirdos got irrationally angry about it and mass reported her. There’d also be a meaningful comment on the actual episode from the same user, but it wouldn’t be upvoted as much, so wouldn’t be displayed as prominently. Before the ban and after it was reversed, there’d typically be an argument in the replies to the Dub time comment between people angrily ranting about it and other people defending it.
So there clearly was some moderation, but beyond an automated bad word filter, and I guess something blocking URLs, it was done sparingly and reluctantly.
In that case they should’ve added AI based mod tools instead of just turning them off.
Maybe you can get the same experience at a place llike AniList or Kitsu?
Good. Not every website needs to be a social media platform too. There’s already plenty of communities on the Internet to discuss anime.
No every website does, but Crunchyroll should be.
And… Why is that?
Anime can be found on tons of streaming services that don’t have comments, like Netflix.
Anime in particular is pretty famous for having its own communities and niche spaces on the internet. If anything, Crunchyroll’s comments section seems to me like it’s unnecessarily fracturing those communities based on who watches on Crunchyroll vs other methods.
There are costs to maintain and moderate communities. It seems to me like that’s adding a good bit of cost to Crunchyroll’s business model in exchange a vlrelatively small value provided to a small percentage of their customers. Whereas with dedicated social media platforms, the business model revolves around and only attracts individuals who highly valued that community. With a smaller community like that, it’s easier to rely on volunteer mods (like most of Lemmy) or a bit of ad revenue.
Because stone cold says so.
Better have comments on Crunchyroll than make me go to R*ddit to find out if I missed something in an episode, especially as anime subreddits typically start permitting episode spoilers before the dub for that episode is out, so there’s often nowhere except the dub comments on Crunchyroll that’s safe to look for dub watchers.
All corporate social media has my permission to die
Bad.
Censoring culture is not good, making it so the only place to get news is from paid talking heads who would never bite the hand that feeds, is not a good change.
The community is destroyed.
This isn’t censoring culture. This is a streaming platform focusing on streaming and giving up on trying to be more than that.
The communities still exist and will find a new platform. Just over a year ago there was a sizeable chunk of Redditors that came to Lemmy. It’s happened time after time when a platform goes down. Communities are much more than just the platform they are on.
I’ve just cancelled my Crunchyroll sub, not only because of the user content deletion but because they lock many translations and animes out of Spain and the quality of some subs are shit generated with AI. My new streaming service is nyaa.
This saddens me. The comments of the animes I watched usually had some interesting trivia or background information that I had missed.
Super useful for something like Overlord, where scenes with background information were cut and there’d be someone saying what else you’d know by this point in the manga, or if you’d forgotten something since watching a previous season and needed a reminder.
you can still use MAL with malsync browser extension and then you can get decent reviews you need
The amount of people bootlicking a corporation’s decision to cut costs rather than just moderate effectively is pretty astonishing for Lemmy,
Plenty of people got value out of the comment section - if nothing else, they were invaluable in knowing when to skip past the recap/opening theme/filler content in long-running shows like One Piece.
Most of it is pretty inane, but there was some useful stuff in there, and I always found it fun to see what other people thought of particularly crazy episodes.
Find another place to post and stop crying. 🤷
“Protecting our community," by destroying it. If you don’t have a community, then it can’t be toxic. Were the comments so bad that this was the only solution?
Most streaming services don’t do comment sections. That’s mostly a YouTube and TikTok thing where the sites depend on user submitted content and also function as a social network. Despite this, people talk about shows on those services, just elsewhere.
Most streaming services don’t have a ‘community’.
You’re a netflix customer, not a part of a community. There is no Netflix or Amazon, etc community.
YouTube has a community though.
See how that works?
it definitely helps that anime tends to be niche and not mainstream (though there’s still some toxicity, ofc).
What, you can’t have war if there are no people?
There is no
war inBa Sing Se.
have you seen literally any comments section lately?
Most comment sections under crunchyroll episodes are super wholesome and cheerful, people are mostly celebrating how good the episode was and how cool the next ones will be.
I meant besides crunchyroll… but are you trying to imply that they shouldn’t have done this or that their harmful content is not a problem that should be dealt with?
Omfg the comment section lovers are literally a vocal minority, this is kinda silly to see play out.
Comments dont make money, moderation costs money. So pull it and make the site more like the other streaming services out there, make some PR word salad to justify it. Not surprising really. Of course maybe it really was a Salty Spitoon in the comments section. Either way, not exactly the burning of the Library of Alexandria.
QA doesn’t make money. They’re paying me anyhow.
QA prevents them from losing money. Same with IT.
Comments sections prevent them from losing users who like that. Users are money.
Cost of moderation likely higher then lost profits from users who were only being kept on by comment section.
That’s the bet they’re making.
It’s a fairly good bet considering the overwhelming majority of streaming services.
You mean the ones that are all failing right now for being fractured and having no appeal beyond whatever the latest binge is?
This is a solvable problem but requires thinking about anything but profits for a minute. Require accounts and ban them permanently from all comment sections. They only won’t do this because it means that person might unsubscribe.
Just another reason to sail the seas.
the high seas have a comment section?
if (postTitle.contains(anyStreamingService)) postPiracyPropaganda();
Yeah, lots of illegal anime streaming sites have MAL list import, comment sections, forums, etc.
i mean if you go to crunchyroll just for the comment section and not to actually watch movies… sure?
Why can’t I do both.
No thoughtcrime, only consume.
Crunchyroll has a comment section? I had seem ratings but never looked at the comments
RIP. Aniwave and Disqus anyone?
nyaa has a comment section.
Better quality video too.
It’s better than aniwave? How do I go about googling such a common term and finding this?
They’re probably referring to nyaa si which normally has either decent webrips, Bluray rips once the show is released physically, and at times with list 3840p shows.
Comments section is kind of more to do with the specific torrent though.
Ahhh, that’s not quite the same as aniwave.
Harmful to Sony’s bottom line.
