First of all. This is not another “how do I exit vim?” shitpost.
I’ve been using (neo)vim for about two years and I started to notice, that I,m basically unable to use non-vim editors. I do not code a lot, but I write a lot of markown. I’d like to use dedicated tools for this, but their vim emulators are so bad. So I’m now stuck with my customized neovim, devoid of any hope of abandoning this strange addiction.
Any help or advice?
You can exit vim but you can never quit
Learn emacs
No joke, Emacs has the ability to render in line markdown, essentially the current line is just text, while the rest of the doc is rendered as markdown titles, links, lists, etc. It’s my favourite way of editing markdown but I’ve never found another editor that does markdown like that. Everything else has text and rendered markdown side by side as separate panes, which I personally hate.
Edit: I stand corrected. Neovim has it too: https://github.com/MeanderingProgrammer/render-markdown.nvim
Sounds like what Obsidian and Logseq do? Awesome!
Marktext is another. Pretty lightweight and more permissive license than Obsidian.
No joke, Emacs has the ability to render in line markdown, essentially the current line is just text, while the rest of the doc is rendered as markdown titles, links, lists, etc.
This sounds amazing. I’ve been using markdown-mode for ages now though, and I’ve never come across this feature.
How do you enable this?
I have it in my config, will link to a specific commit in case anything changes. Look for the heading called MARKDOWN and I’d recommend grabbing all 3 subsections (MARKDOWN, Markdown Headings, Markdown Concealing). The main part is the last one iirc. Link: https://gitlab.com/theshatterstone/dotfiles/-/blob/6f00007eac475946e11fa3278ffbf526400b7e10/.config/emacs/config.org
Some people over at reddit seem to suggest that the functionally you speak of doesn’t exist, except in the form of a proof of concept snippet over at SO.
EDIT: Said snippet would probably be sufficient, if it handled codeblocks correctly (stuff in between
```). At the moment, it handles them miserably (maybe because they are multineline elements?)
Agreed. Start here.
LOL you made my day :) “emacs is a part time job”
Switch to GUI editors with Word-like navigation. You will struggle but eventually your vim habits will fade away and then you will be able to use any editor with slightly various levels of performance.
Why do you want stop using Vim in the first place? That would be a good information to have, to give help. What dedicated tools do you mean? What do they offer that you miss in Vim? If you just hate Vim and want stop using it no matter what, the only solution is to uninstall it, to not fall into those habits of using it everywhere. Over time you should get used to those other editors and tools.
Accept your fate. VIM is love. VIM is life.
The trick is do the opposite, namely bring vim everywhere, e.g using Tridactyl you can bring some behaviors to the browser and, in this very textarea from lemmy, if I press Ctrl+i I get gvim, when I exit it, the content is back in the textarea and I can reply. Vim everywhere.
With neovim you can even put vim in the textarea.
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Thanks for sharing back such detailed instructions! I hope you will like it and inspire other to try. I’ve been using it for years now https://fabien.benetou.fr/Tools/Tridactyl after Vimperator and really enjoy browsing this way.
I unfortunately deleted this comment, before seeing your reply. I thought it was too complicated for an comment. So I ended up creating a dedicated tutorial post based on that reply in Linux and Firefox communities.
lol, yes I just saw that :D No worries, thanks for sharing it there then!
Use doom emacs
Build a small EMP device. Figure out how to trigger it from terminal. Delete the key bindings for vim. Map them to the trigger you have for the EMP.
… good luck…?
You could consider markdown extensions that helps you write and visualize!
Like this one: https://github.com/MeanderingProgrammer/render-markdown.nvim
The real question is how to make everything a modal editor.
Get a thinkpad or a keyboard with a trackpoint. Your life gets a little bit better.
I rarely even use my trackpoint ngl
Make a plugin to a non-vim editor that properly emulates the vim experience, with the non-vim GUI.
Or, if that doesn’t work well enough, fork them.
Failing that, you could just accept your fate. I love my neovim install.
Some IDE’s have a VIM mode.
This is what I do. The IDEA tools (InteliJ, PyCharm, etc.) have pretty good vim support.
Take vim with you to something with a lot more features!
I use vscode with vim plugin/key bindings lol
I’ve been trying with helix bindings for code recently, used to use the neovim plugin
I find both too laggy/slow to start up/buggy personally, feels like I’m fighting with the editor sometimes
