A man who spent more than 16 years in prison in Florida on a wrongful conviction was shot and killed Monday by a sheriff’s deputy in Georgia during a traffic stop, authorities and representatives said.

Leonard Allen Cure, 53, was identified by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, which is reviewing the shooting.

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    That cop had better be charged and jailed for the rest of his life.

    Mf’ers murdering with impunity over a traffic stop. 😡

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    Miller couldn’t comment specifically on Cure’s death but said he has represented dozens of people convicted of crimes who were later exonerated.

    “Even when they’re free, they always struggled with the concern, the fear that they’ll be convicted and incarcerated again for something they didn’t do,” he said.

    Totally understandable. I would imagine that’s kind of traumatic.

    (He was incarcerated in FL and killed in GA btw)

    Assuming this wasn’t execution…

    Cops are taught Killilogy. I gather they’re trained to protect their own life at all costs and that the public is out to kill them. Also deep seated racism^1 means they fear black men more. So they shoot at the drop of a hat (or for no reason at all).

    We really need to disarm the goddamn cops if they can’t be trained to de-escalate and control a situation without murdering civilians all the time.


    1. Did you know that early 1900s crime “statistics” were heavily biased against black people? These “statistics” established a bullshit racist narrative that black people are more prone to commit crime, which persists to this day, influencing government policies, more than a century later? (Source: The Condemnation of Blackness: Race, Crime and the Making of Modern Urban America by Khalil Gibran Muhammad)
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      I won’t suspect an intent where a regular assholeness applies.

      That said, they feel like they own the streets. Not only scared, but drunk on the lack of consequencies. That double-wrong story and recent accident when a cop raced after a suspect and slammed into an uninvolved car killing two shows how everything is wrong with their current position and thinking. Act now, think later - as their motto. It’s not what these public servants are supposed to do, not ones with guns and tanks.

      ACAB, because to be this one good cop, you need to actively and implicitly avoid using this given power to do fuck all. This system and their union enables them to act like shit by default. When you order something by delivery, you don’t think about how a character of a delivery guy affects the state of a package, you complain if they give you a box of feces. Why cops aren’t judged like that when they put feces whenever they like, and are free to do so, with lethal consequencies.

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        There might be a ton of awesome cops in my town, but the SPOG - seattle police officer’s guild - is constructed to defend the worst and maximize the force’s overtime grift. So fuck.

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    “I can only imagine what it’s like to know your son is innocent and watch him be sentenced to life in prison, to be exonerated and … then be told that once he’s been freed, he’s been shot dead,” Miller said. “I can’t imagine as a parent what that feels like.”

    Pretty tragic.

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    Let this be a lesson to anyone else who thinks they can tell the cops what to do.

    • that cop, probably
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    How do the police manage to murder someone in a traffic stop??? Doesn’t that just entail the police telling someone their brake lights aren’t working or ticketing them for being 5mph over the speed limit? Man I’m glad the police (and everybody else for that matter) don’t have guns in my country because that would be happening here too. That poor man and his family.

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        I just read the article and that is absolutely disgusting, even if the deputy’s side of the story is all true why are they allowed kill someone for “resisting arrest??” Shouldn’t they only use their gun if their life or the lives of members of the public are being threatened? I really hope that cop gets life in prison and has an extremely miserable rest of his life like the cop that murdered George Floyd, but something tells me that won’t be happening here.

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          You read the article?

          He cooperated at first but became violent after he was told he was being arrested, a GBI news release said.

          The agency said preliminary information shows the deputy shocked the driver with a stun gun when he failed to obey commands, and the driver then began assaulting the deputy. The GBI said the deputy again tried using the stun gun and a baton to subdue him, then drew his gun and shot the driver when he continued to resist.

          They tried to stun him twice, use a baton, the only option left was to use the gun. I’m not saying the story is 100% true, and I don’t know what he was even arrested for in the first place, but that is exactly the kind of restrained escalation you would expect.

          Edit: Added first line of the quote for further context. Can you lot just please read the fucking article? Pick your battles, this isn’t a good one.

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              But the driver wasn’t compliant though. He was first put under arrest, then became violent, then the stun gun came out. 2 tries with the stun gun, then the baton, then the gun.

              Personally I would prefer the officer didn’t have a gun, and that all handguns were banned like in other countries, but the escalation seems appropriate (at least according to the account given, no telling if it’s actually true).

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                Controversial oppinion, perhaps: would it not have been a better option to just, give up and let him go (for now), rather than fucking shoot him? I mean, wasn’t this over a traffic stop?

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                  Maybe, maybe not. If he were to then go off and commit a serious crime, people would be asking why the officer let him get away.

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            He was already wrongfully locked up for 16 years and they wanted him back in jail again, that’s all.

            When he quite rightfully resisted, they murdered him.

            It was 100% purposeful on the police’s part.

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              He rightfully resisted arrest? Even if the arrest is unlawful, resisting arrest is clearly illegal.

              It’s a big assumption to say that they wanted him back in jail. It might be somewhat likely, but we don’t know either way. We don’t know the reason for his arrest.

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                Even if the arrest is unlawful, resisting arrest is clearly illegal.

                And the punishment for breaking any law is death? Or from your prior comment:

                They tried to stun him twice, use a baton, the only option left was to use the gun.

                Yeah, the gun was the only option. You definitely can’t just let someone run away for resisting arrest at a traffic stop. Even if you impound their now-abandoned car, they might go on a whole spree of resisting arrests or something.

                In case you can’t tell my tone is past sarcasm and well into disgust.

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                  So it’s ok for police to let an aggressive and violent man run loose?

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              You don’t have anything straight. You’re just raging and irrational.

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                What’s irrational is the fear (or possibly even hate hopefully not) that this officer had for this man.

                I’m no expert but I’m inclined to think it’s the fear that officers get indoctrinated with in training and from the media that causes these types of things. They went up to that car on high alert thinking they were in danger because their job is known for danger and they are trained that any incident could turn deadly. So they walk up ready to pull their weapons.

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                  Yes. The man, on the other hand, had a rational fear of the cops given his history. No wonder he resisted - I wouldn’t be surprised if he had a panic reaction to being arrested. Obviously, the best outcome would have been if he had complied, I’m not saying it’s okay to resist even an illegal arrest necessarily, but sometimes you panic and react irrationally. That’s just being human.

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      He was killed in a different state. I think it’s just that Black men are killed all the time by cops.

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      You mean branches of government? I don’t think the police are a branch of government… I mean the executive, or the executors is a pretty good description for them, though the branch of government executive tends to execute policy not people.

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    Does the police not have an independent body that reviews any time the police use their firearms? Surely it should be an automatic suspension, regardless of the reason. How does the US seem to have such a big police problem?

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      Police Unions. There’s a few Behind the Bastards podcast episodes on how they started.

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    The only good cop is a dead cop and I’ll keep saying it until the day I die. Fuck all pigs to death.

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      Something to see, baby…

      Telling that the song was written as a criticism of class in America, but conservatives missed the point and ran with it as a model of what they thought America should be - little pink houses, for you and me.

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      Hey @jimbolauski@lemmy.world , still think I’ve got rustled jimmies or can we see a bit more eye to eye now about my hate of the South?

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        only racist cops in the south

        So we just gonna act like Chicago/Detroit/NY PD doesn’t exist?

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          If you’d like to discuss with me, I generally prefer people don’t try to imply that I’m saying something.

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            All I’m saying is that you make it seem like the south is the only place with racist law enforcement, it’s not.

            Law enforcement is racist. Laws are geared against minorities, this is a rule of fact everywhere in the US.

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              As I said, you’re making implications and reading much more into it than I intended. What I said was exactly what I meant, nothing more nothing less.

              As I said, I prefer people try not to imply I’m saying something given you didn’t listen for the 2nd chance I see no reason for continue the conversation. Have a good one.

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                You’re feigning ignorance, please stop.

                After all, ignorance is no excuse for the law.

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                  Yet again, you continue to assume and make an ass of yourself and me. So allow me to be clear, I’m asking you to fuck off.

                  You’re being a dick so now I’ll insist, go shove your opinion back up your ass and get fucked.

                  Come back when you learn how to listen without assumption.

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        I see I’m living in your head rent free.

        I don’t have enough detailes. I don’t like to jump to conclusions based on limited information.

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            Waiting for more details is digging in harder? I’m just not the kind of person that will get hysterical over a clickbate headline.

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              If you’re waiting for more details about cops being horrible in the US, you ar have either dug into the opposite opinion, or have managed to avoid (intentionally or otherwise) a whole lot of data.

              But it’s a good guess to assume the former.

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                I’m waiting for details on this case. Did the cop have a legitimate reason to pull over Leonard Cure, did he have a reason to arrest him. The article claims Lenard resisted and continued going after the cop after he was tased but I have not seen any evidence.

                I wonder why you get so worked up about someone wanting more info instead of blindly following a narrative.

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                  Well, let me ask…

                  When was the last news story where you went back, got the details later, and felt the cops used too much force and deserved to be punished?