• LedgeDrop@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Before we start to pat ourselves on the back: How does the number of murders in the U. S. compare to the rest of the world? This is really the only meaningful metric, otherwise it’s like a chain smoker congratulating themselves from dropping from 3 packs a day to 2.

    
    *"... there are lies, damn lies, and statistics." *
    
    *edit*: The link I posted referred to a high murder rate for U.S. Virgin Islands (not contential U.S.).  So, it's not relevant to the conversation. Thanks for calling me out on it. 
    
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        1 year ago

        Well, no one else is so hit me with it.

        I’m lying. My mom said she was very proud of me she believes I can quit.

        • ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Hey I’m super glad to hear you’re making a positive change. Quitting is tough, and it can be a long road. One day at a time. Congrats on your progress so far, I also believe you can do it!

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      1 year ago

      That source seems to be claiming that the US’s Virgin Islands is the 4th highest at 49 per cap. America overall averages closer to 7.

    • trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      The most “recent” information I could find used U.S. data from 2012 and world data from 2017 (which is really dumb). There the U. S. was Ranked 4th highest in murders by country .

      slow down speed racer

      United States Virgin Islands (49.3 [2012 data])

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        Yeah, seems the US is somewhere around 34th according to this source.

        Anyway, comparing murder rates between countries is generally fraught. Statistics tend to vary wildly even in different geographical areas, and the US is capital L Large. Rural and suburban US are often very competitive with other developed nations, but ghetto US is down in the gutter.

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      Thats US Virgin Islands at 4th with a rate of 49.3. The source you provided shows the US has a homicide rate of 4.96. Its a little unclear if the source is using murder and homicide interchangeably or not.