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    11 months ago

    The ignorance on display here is palpable.

    Agreed.

    How convenient, you avoided answering my question at all!

    Why do you hate children?

    that has directly caused 17 fatalities, mind you

    [citation needed]

    It’s all garbage if it poses a threat to a human life.

    It doesn’t. It’s the opposite. It protects human life.

    dismissing results due to your own biases is quite ignorant.

    How can I “dismiss results” when none have been presented?

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      11 months ago

      Agreed.

      eye roll I’m so ignorant. My CompE Master’s and my previous work in vision-based AI collision detection systems has left me woefully unprepared to have educated and qualified experience for this exact topic.

      Why do you hate children?

      I never mentioned children, don’t put words in my mouth. Keep deflecting.

      :citation needed:

      Here you go: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/06/10/tesla-autopilot-crashes-elon-musk/

      Nifty: https://www.tesladeaths.com/

      It protects human life.

      I’m sure the 17+ dead human lives really appreciate this “protection”.

      Maybe “results” wasn’t the right word. Dismissing the findings of engineers close to the technology might fit better, but I’m definitely calling the number of fatalities and accidents caused by Autopilot as results of Autopilot and therefore Tesla.

      It is not my intention to attempt to change your mind on this technology though, I’m just pointing out your anecdotal experience is not significant and dismissing the findings of engineers close to the technology due to your own biases is incredibly ignorant. This mindset is harmful whether you accept that or not.

      Best of luck and good day.

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        11 months ago

        My CompE Master’s and my previous work in vision-based AI collision detection systems has left me woefully unprepared to have educated and qualified experience for this exact topic.

        That’s awesome! Would you share more with us about the research you conducted with Tesla’s AutoPilot, and specifically what makes it “experimental”?

        I never mentioned children

        How convenient, you avoided answering the question at all!

        Here you go:

        As I suspected, nothing points to the notion that this was caused by AutoPilot. It’s caused by inattentive drivers.

        This is nothing but shit “journalism” playing on whatever is “hot” and trendy.

        I’m sure the 17+ dead human lives really appreciate this “protection”.

        There are no dead human lives. You’re just making that up.

        dismissing the findings of engineers close to the technology due to your own biases is incredibly ignorant.

        I don’t have any biases. “Ignorant” is claiming that a driver assistance system is responsible for driver inattentiveness.

        Bye bye now.

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          11 months ago

          Why the accidents happen is not why I commented. I’m not going to argue if the assistance system is responsible or the driver is, that’s a different argument and it’s my fault I let it get to this point.

          I don’t have any biases.

          Says the person that literally drives a Tesla with Autopilot, as claimed in your parent comment.

          “Bias: A statistical sampling or testing error caused by systematically favoring some outcomes over others.”

          You’ve favored your own 10k+ miles over an ex-Tesla employee and refuse to accept reported data. Funnily enough, your narcissistic anecdotes are another type of fallacy related to your confirmation bias.

          Let’s revisit why I commented again:

          Your ignorance is due to you believing your personal anecdotal evidence is qualified in any way to dismiss Autopilot issues as an experiment.

          You’ve drawn a conclusion using fallacious information. That’s it.

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            11 months ago

            Hey welcome back!

            Why the accidents happen is not why I commented.

            That’s literally the entire point of the article in OP. You repeatedly blamed Autopilot for several deaths. If that’s not the point, what is?

            Says the person that literally drives a Tesla with Autopilot

            That doesn’t inherently make me biased. I can and will gladly talk shit about all the dumb shit Tesla does. There’s plenty of it to go around without fabricating nonsense.

            You’ve favored your own 10k+ miles over an ex-Tesla employee and refuse to accept reported data

            You keep repeating this and I keep correcting you. I’m not doing it again. I’ve been abundantly clear about this several times at this point. That’s not what’s happening. If you want to argue with a strawman, feel free to do that with yourself.

            Your ignorance is due to you believing your personal anecdotal evidence is qualified in any way to dismiss Autopilot issues as an experiment.

            It absolutely is. It doesn’t require anything more. That’s just a fact.

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              11 months ago

              Bless your heart, sweetie.

              That’s literally the entire point of the article in OP. You repeatedly blamed Autopilot for several deaths. If that’s not the point, what is?

              Let me check where I first commented on the article. Oh…I didn’t, just on your anecdotal evidence. I tried to give some frame of reference for your “proportion” which devolved into discussing responsibility for the deaths. Not my intention with my parent comment reply.

              It absolutely is. It doesn’t require anything more. That’s just a fact.

              I’ll start letting everyone know their anecdotal evidence is more than enough to start dismissing other qualified claims then. This is going to revolutionize science and reality!

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                11 months ago

                Oh, honey…

                I’ll start letting everyone know their anecdotal evidence is more than enough to start dismissing other qualified claims

                As you already know, it obviously depends on the circumstances

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                  11 months ago

                  Oh babe, it’s completely obvious. I just wish arguments from anecdotes were more obvious.

                  Edited to remove potentially identifying information.

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                    11 months ago

                    I had nothing to do with any testing or development with Tesla’s autonomous systems but I totally know everything about it

                    🤣