Meanwhile some of those countries that take great offense of losing a single copy of their book to fire won’t bat an eyelid if some of their followers burn down buildings of other religions of kill their followers
Well, by that logic, Switzerland isn’t a democracy. The country that decides pretty much everything on referendum.
And Ireland only became a democracy 3 years ago.
For what it’s worth, Blasphemy laws can be compatible with democracy. Democracy is only about fair elections and rule of the people. If the people want blasphemy laws, that’s still democracy.
Freedom is a spectrum - and blasphemy laws just make a country less free. Not necessarily less Democratic.
I stand my point.
Every law restructs freedom one way or another. That is their purpouse so that people can live together peacefully.
Blasphemy laws are not the same, they restrict what people can say or do about concepts and beliefs. A democracy where fantasy books have equal rights as people is a democracy by name.
That’s an absolutely absurd thing to say. Hate crimes absolutely include acts against symbols and texts of a group. Go outside and burn some lgbt flags in the street in front of cameras or police anywhere here western EU and see how that turns out for you in court.
Burning religious texts is absolutely 100% a hate crime against followers of that religion and frankly defending that makes you a hateful bigot.
Thank you for your praise! I see that you belong to the group of people who wake up every morning looking for a reason to get offended.
Go in peace with your beliefs and let me piss on holly books.
While I would find burning a flag distasteful, I believe it is more important to have free speech. Burn a Bible or burn a flag, fine. Steal the flag and/or call for the death or violence along with that, now you have a problem.
And I would rather live in a society that isn’t draconian even if I have to allow those with opinions I don’t agree with.
Imagine calling hate directed against lgbt people “free speech” go fuck yourself. Fuck your free speech. Your right to speech ends at precisely the point it oppresses marginalised groups. There is no scenario where you can perform this act and not be committing and inciting hate against these groups. Eat shit homophobe.
Relax dude. I have lgbt friends. I simply prefer to live in countries that provides protection to all groups while balancing that with free speech. But I certainly understand the countries that have cracked down the hardest on free speech are also often the countries that have made many of these groups illegal. Sometimes making the punishments death.
This I really have problems with people like you that want to go backwards and encourage government to create overreaching laws. Laws that could make lgbt lifestyles illegal.
I give you source that burning flag alone is fine and you get angry. You seem to have anger issue. It is likely a good thing most people don’t have your opinion and don’t think it is fine to jail someone just because they are a shitty person. Too often that kind of government overreach that could result in you yourself being on the wrong end of the law.
A book is not a person. A book can not be discriminated against. Democracies do not recognize the blasphemy as a crime. Theocracies do.
you know, it’s almost as if burning the religious texts of a minority group implies some general sentiment towards the minority group itself 🤔
EXACTLY
Meanwhile some of those countries that take great offense of losing a single copy of their book to fire won’t bat an eyelid if some of their followers burn down buildings of other religions of kill their followers
I agree with that, but I also think if you’re going to ban the burning of one religious text, you need to ban the burning of all religious texts.
Well, by that logic, Switzerland isn’t a democracy. The country that decides pretty much everything on referendum.
And Ireland only became a democracy 3 years ago.
For what it’s worth, Blasphemy laws can be compatible with democracy. Democracy is only about fair elections and rule of the people. If the people want blasphemy laws, that’s still democracy.
Freedom is a spectrum - and blasphemy laws just make a country less free. Not necessarily less Democratic.
I stand my point. Every law restructs freedom one way or another. That is their purpouse so that people can live together peacefully. Blasphemy laws are not the same, they restrict what people can say or do about concepts and beliefs. A democracy where fantasy books have equal rights as people is a democracy by name.
Switzerland isn’t a democracy. It’s a dictatorship of the bourgeois and a country that the bourgeois control can never be democratic
That’s an absolutely absurd thing to say. Hate crimes absolutely include acts against symbols and texts of a group. Go outside and burn some lgbt flags in the street in front of cameras or police anywhere here western EU and see how that turns out for you in court.
Burning religious texts is absolutely 100% a hate crime against followers of that religion and frankly defending that makes you a hateful bigot.
Thank you for your praise! I see that you belong to the group of people who wake up every morning looking for a reason to get offended. Go in peace with your beliefs and let me piss on holly books.
Holy
You won’t be charged for burning flags. With the exception that the burn itself might be illegal.
You absolutely will be charged for burning an lgbt flag to make a statement that you hate lgbt people here in the uk wtf are you talking about? https://www.thepinknews.com/2020/08/04/brighton-pride-flag-burned-arson-hate-crime-abdelhakim-ismaili/
You are bigots advocating for hatespeech.
Generally absent of other crimes, it would be pretty hard to be charged.
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-burning-pride-flag-idUSL1N37N1L5
While I would find burning a flag distasteful, I believe it is more important to have free speech. Burn a Bible or burn a flag, fine. Steal the flag and/or call for the death or violence along with that, now you have a problem.
And I would rather live in a society that isn’t draconian even if I have to allow those with opinions I don’t agree with.
Imagine calling hate directed against lgbt people “free speech” go fuck yourself. Fuck your free speech. Your right to speech ends at precisely the point it oppresses marginalised groups. There is no scenario where you can perform this act and not be committing and inciting hate against these groups. Eat shit homophobe.
Relax dude. I have lgbt friends. I simply prefer to live in countries that provides protection to all groups while balancing that with free speech. But I certainly understand the countries that have cracked down the hardest on free speech are also often the countries that have made many of these groups illegal. Sometimes making the punishments death.
This I really have problems with people like you that want to go backwards and encourage government to create overreaching laws. Laws that could make lgbt lifestyles illegal.
you’re literally just doing the “i have black friends” thing
if you consider hate speech as free speech then i am all for censoring free speech
Fuck off. Stop responding to me. In the street you’d get your head caved in for saying this shit over here. Deservedly so.
I give you source that burning flag alone is fine and you get angry. You seem to have anger issue. It is likely a good thing most people don’t have your opinion and don’t think it is fine to jail someone just because they are a shitty person. Too often that kind of government overreach that could result in you yourself being on the wrong end of the law.