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        1 year ago

        Has the USA owned Chile, Afghanistan, Iraq, Philippines, Indonesia, Vietnam, Cambodia, Marshall Islands, Honduras, Haiti, black prison labour, I could go on if you want…?

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          1 year ago

          This is still “butt butt-“

          No. The sins of another country do not make another’s okay. You call it out. We call out the US all the time, and it deserves it. And so does China.

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            1 year ago

            Sure, just don’t degrade the severity of what a genocide means for political gain. It used to mean genocide was extermination of people based on their ethnicity. At the same standard the USA holds China, mow I can say the USA imprisoning black people systemically and putting them in parole programs to force them to get work in menial jobs amounts to genocide because is 1) systemic and 2) destroys a culture counter to the main society. Your country is committing genocide right now if you held it to the same standards at you hold China.

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              1 year ago

              Point at where I said genocide. I didn’t use that word here because I know it’s contested in this case and I know it has a definition that I’m not interested in degrading. You said that word.

              Regardless, this has nothing to do with my point. My point is that if a country is doing $thing, pointing at $otherthing means nothing. You’re deflecting.

              Do US people deflect by pointing at China? Yep. Our guys totally deflect when they want to distract from shit. But this post brought it up, so own it.

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                1 year ago

                Fair I was filling in the blanks of your argument. I disagree with China having to own the accusations made against its treatment of its Uighur minority, there’s a lot of evidence out there that this is a US funded campaign to discredit China internationally, similar to how they used Tibet as a propaganda campaign in the 90’s.

                Regardless, I agree China has done bad things, similar to many powers in the world, and they should own (be accountable to) those mistakes. In this context I don’t see the need for them to own anything however, instead they should continue to defend their reputation, and point out human rights issues in the west.