Not entirely true. For most functionality on Android, you also need to be signed in with Google, but you can de-google it. On Apple, it’s the same, but you can’t de-apple it. You can currently only use the App Store which needs an Apple ID, so you lose like 80% of the stuff you could use your phone for.
For most functionality on Android, you also need to be signed in with Google
Really? Funny, my Lineage devices have zero Google Crap and they work just fine. Phone, email, SMS, messengers (Telegram, XMPP, Wire, SimpleX, Signal), web works fine, I’m able to run my sync tools like Foldersync, Syncthing, Resilio, my calendar works, my shopping list app works and syncs to their servers just fine, I use 4 mapping apps two are offroad/hiking, same ones I used when it had google) my address book works, etc.
I have ~300 apps on my phone.
So what’s this “most functionality” thing that I apparently don’t know about?
That’s de-googling (which I specifically mentioned in my previous comment). I’m talking about the stock experience most people will have on Android. For that, you need a Google account.
An user not familiar with Android will just use the Play Store, and they’ll need to log in with Google.
But you can use sideloading and different stores for that.
That’s (part of) what I said. You can also remove your Apple ID after you downloaded some apps, but that doesn’t change the fact that you need one to do so.
This would actually be a big step for many Android users wanting to try out another OS.
That’s the biggest benefit, competition ripples back and forth across services and improves everything. One thing gets better, so other things have to get better, so everything gets better.
They’ll allow you to sideload, but there’s nothing in the law that states they have to let you sideload whatever you choose. Apple will find a way to appease the dumbasses in Europe while still protecting the overall security of their platform for the rest of their users
Everyone wants the iPhone to be like Android. If that were the case, there would be no compelling reason to choose iOS, other than superior hardware, but your average user doesn’t even really care about that.
Apple will find a way to appease the dumbasses in Europe
I imagine Tim Apple’s bottom is shinier than Bender’s from all that kissing. One often wonders why people keep drinking the Kool-Aid from such behemoths. Must be something in the water.
but there’s nothing in the law that states they have to let you sideload whatever you choose
That’s pretty much exactly what the law does say.
The gatekeeper shall allow and technically enable the installation and effective use of third-party software applications or software application stores using, or interoperating with, its operating system and allow those software applications or software application stores to be accessed by means other than the relevant core platform services of that gatekeeper.
There’s a provision for not letting the user actively break the device, but that’s it. And it’s couched in terms like “if strictly necessary and proportionate” and “provided they are justified”, so it’s not something Apple can apply on a whim.
It doesn’t say anything about specific software. They have to allow you to use third party stores, they don’t have to allow you to download torrent apps so that you can pirate.
There was a time, on Android custom roms, if you had pirated apps installed, they were uninstalled automatically. I see something similar happening here.
It doesn’t say anything about specific software. They have to allow you to use third party stores, they don’t have to allow you to download torrent apps so that you can pirate.
Literally in the quote I posted…
The gatekeeper shall allow and technically enable the installation and effective use of third-party software applications or software application stores
This would actually be a big step for many Android users wanting to try out another OS.
I know for myself that sideloading apps is a must for me on my phone, and if an iPhone could do that, it’s at least one step closer for consideration.
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Not entirely true. For most functionality on Android, you also need to be signed in with Google, but you can de-google it. On Apple, it’s the same, but you can’t de-apple it. You can currently only use the App Store which needs an Apple ID, so you lose like 80% of the stuff you could use your phone for.
Really? Funny, my Lineage devices have zero Google Crap and they work just fine. Phone, email, SMS, messengers (Telegram, XMPP, Wire, SimpleX, Signal), web works fine, I’m able to run my sync tools like Foldersync, Syncthing, Resilio, my calendar works, my shopping list app works and syncs to their servers just fine, I use 4 mapping apps two are offroad/hiking, same ones I used when it had google) my address book works, etc.
I have ~300 apps on my phone.
So what’s this “most functionality” thing that I apparently don’t know about?
That’s de-googling (which I specifically mentioned in my previous comment). I’m talking about the stock experience most people will have on Android. For that, you need a Google account.
An user not familiar with Android will just use the Play Store, and they’ll need to log in with Google.
Not really, you can just remove your Google Account after setting it up and things will stay working without issue.
You only really need a Google account to download apps from the Play store. But you can use sideloading and different stores for that.
That’s (part of) what I said. You can also remove your Apple ID after you downloaded some apps, but that doesn’t change the fact that you need one to do so.
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Wait so you don’t need an Apple ID for the App Store? Or did I interpret your comment wrong.
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You can sync photos with tools like Syncthing, but it’s not automatic because of how iOS stores photos.
That’s the biggest benefit, competition ripples back and forth across services and improves everything. One thing gets better, so other things have to get better, so everything gets better.
Knock-on effects are insanely good.
Nah. As an Android user, the only other OS’s I’m interested in are ones that further embrace the Linux ecosystem.
They’ll allow you to sideload, but there’s nothing in the law that states they have to let you sideload whatever you choose. Apple will find a way to appease the dumbasses in Europe while still protecting the overall security of their platform for the rest of their users
Everyone wants the iPhone to be like Android. If that were the case, there would be no compelling reason to choose iOS, other than superior hardware, but your average user doesn’t even really care about that.
I imagine Tim Apple’s bottom is shinier than Bender’s from all that kissing. One often wonders why people keep drinking the Kool-Aid from such behemoths. Must be something in the water.
Y’all really need new material. This is just pathetic.
I’d beg to differ, this whole “leave Britney alone” shtick is really tiresome.
Please step on me harder Mr.Apple!
You’d probably enjoy it too much. 🤣
You’re the one championing for it champ.
I just tell it like it is, I don’t give a fuck if you agree with or not. 🤷🏻♂️
And I’m just telling it like it is too.
If you don’t like it stop whinging to me.
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Aww someone can’t handle being told like how it is.
Irony.
That’s pretty much exactly what the law does say.
There’s a provision for not letting the user actively break the device, but that’s it. And it’s couched in terms like “if strictly necessary and proportionate” and “provided they are justified”, so it’s not something Apple can apply on a whim.
It doesn’t say anything about specific software. They have to allow you to use third party stores, they don’t have to allow you to download torrent apps so that you can pirate.
There was a time, on Android custom roms, if you had pirated apps installed, they were uninstalled automatically. I see something similar happening here.
Literally in the quote I posted…
If less options is the only selling point of iOS, then it is a shit OS.
There is, actually. And there is much more, you also will be able to publish on the App Store without using Apple’s payment services for example.
EU lawmakers are slow, but not completely stupid.