“Kenny just began to gasp for air repeatedly and the execution took about 25 minutes total.”

Pretty compassionate way to kill a person.

Once again, the Law in the south is brutal.

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    If someone kills your loved one on purpose for no good reason. What do you want to happen to that person?

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      Right or wrong shouldn’t change even if I’m really angry. That’s fucking illogical.

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      capture, retention, rehabilitation if possible. get over your revenge fantasy.

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      Killing them I don’t think will help. I wouldn’t forgive them. But I hope society is able to rehabilitate that person, because killing others isn’t something I believe is an accepted normal thing to do, and that person has problems that need resolving.

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      For them to live a long and uncomfortable life faced every day with the consequences of their actions, and removal of their freedom for their act of destroying the freedom of another

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      Hi kiddo.

      My dad came from Belfast. During the troubles one of my cousins was murdered by a protestant foot soldier. He went to jail.

      Killing him wouldn’t bring my cousin back.

      One of mine was murdered. I’m still anti death penalty.

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      Is the purpose of punishing criminals preventing people from doing crimes or to satisfy someone’s revenge fantasies? A state that has the right to kill its own citizens is a state with way too much power.

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      I’ll be that one guy and back you up on this one. Mind you it would probably have to be a “have nothing else left” state, but you bet your damned ass I would find a way to exact revenge.

      People in my region voted away the mental health and rehab centers so instead we have very limited rehab options and multiple stabbings from repeat offenders who just get let out again because it doesn’t work and we have no resources in containment either. I guess there is more forgiveness in others than I possess seeing as after 10+ assaults and damaging multiple small businesses (no shareholders no crime? /s) this guy is still out and about. Eventually he will kill someone and maybe the family of the victim will shower him with kindness and warmth too.

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        Why don’t you kill him yourself? You seem to think you’ll be praised a hero. Why make someone else do your dirty work? Could it be because like the rest of us you don’t have the stomach for murder?

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          He has nothing to do with me and I wasn’t even trying to imply he should be killed, just noting that there is clearly no working rehab type solution in place. Drugs and the continually increasing cost of living are only going to compound the problem. And I’m not so deluded to think I would be praised for murder. I’d have to be an extremist far right American politician or cop or something for that. I don’t know where you get the idea of someone else doing it either.

          Who can really judge anyone though. What is to stop a stabbing victim on an adrenaline rush from grabbing the blade, biting the hand holding it, and stabbing back repeatedly while screaming? Who’s fault is it? When you are bleeding out after being stabbed do you need to feel sorry for the man stabbing you, and think about how he lived a hard life and was just down on his luck and had his mind repeatedly eroded by drugs after what was intended to be a brief respite from the difficulties of merely being alive and not birthed by at least moderately wealthy and mentally stable parents? Do you have to stop and think about whether it is wrong to kill and decide whether it would be better to bleed out alone and hope someone helps in time, or will he finish you off after your consciousness fades and run off with the $12.50 in your pocket and a stack of mostly useless cards?

          That’s only a theoretical case where both parties could be considered victims in some way. What about the famous serial killer that had an otherwise normal life and a family that was supposedly totally clueless and lived to a ripe old age before being caught? I seem to recall one or more cases of a man keeping a girl trapped in part of his house and raping her for years, somehow also without his family noticing. I don’t really want to type in the search terms to try to find an article for that though. There are certainly no shortage of cases of people absolutely ruining the lives of others while living a life something like the American dream on the side.

          If life was a video game you would probably go through a long journey to find the true villain that put everyone in the position, making friends along the way, questioning whether revenge would ease the pain or just make you feel empty, have some uplifting spiritual cleansing and the start of a romance, and then find out the real villains were legion but they were also all long dead and acting from beyond the grave. The systems they put in place had long normalized the suffering of all and contained sweet words and false promises that blinded people to the hypocrisies as they searched for an ultimately limited personal gain. Everyone comes together to change things for the better, but not enough people vote accordingly and they ended up losing rights previously earned through the sacrifices of their ancestors. The moral of the story is that life sucks and you die so forgive your murderers and give all your earnings to your corporate overlords.