Every time I have a conversation with a pro-Palestinian or especially pro-Hamas person, they always end up losing their cool and attacking me. Just like in most pro-Palestine protests, people get violent and attack random Jews on the street or a Starbucks for some reason (there isn’t even Starbucks in Israel). The pro-Israel marches I’ve seen are just people singing the anthem or something. It’s pretty reflective of the entire situation, Israelis aren’t very interested in war, there’s nothing in the Gaza Strip that we need, no resources, no landmarks of interest, just more desert like the rest of our country. But Arabs and Muslims from all around our tiny strip of land simply hate us on a religious basis and want to see us gone. And we’ve no place to go. We won’t just lie down and die. Sorry.
No one is asking you to lay down and die. Good job trying to invoke victim status to again justify genocide.
Also, good job trying to antisemitically equate Judaism with the genocidal actions of the Israeli government. JVP does NOT want to hold your blood stained hands.
Here, try something out, if you actually want to understand, which I don’t think you do, but on the off chance.
Imagine you see a nation trying to commit genocide against its minority population of Jewish people that it has kept mostly locked up in a bantustan for the last 17 years. Imagine a citizen of that country who, presumably, isn’t actively participating in the slaughter of Jewish people starts trying to garner sympathy for the slaughter, and justify why the slaughter is okay.
Imagine how you’d want to react to that person.
I’m not Arab, just someone who firmly believes in Never Again. I will treat any worthless genocide justifying fuck the same way, as I’m treating you. I have the same disgust and disdain for the Azerbaijani justifying the ethnic cleansing of the Nagorno-Karbagh region. The same Azeris who got a fuck ton of weapons from Israel, by the by. Funny how Israel sides with and provides weapons to the wrong side in history.
I would hope that you would treat people you legitimately believe are committing genocide the same way, but from your words it is obvious that ‘Never Again’ meant nothing to you, so I suspect you wouldn’t.
Also, good job trying to imply protestors against genocide are antisemitic. I don’t give a fuck about your religion, or your ethnicity. I care about your disgusting actions and words.
Finally, I will say something that should terrify you.
Israel has zero strategic depth. Anyone invades, and it is very quickly over. Again, nothing to do with religion or ethnicity, just geography. Israel is just too small to have strategic depth.
One major shield that Israel had (other than the nukes) was a myth of martial superiority and invincibility. However, for obvious reasons, Israels main strength lies in its armor, and its air force.
But technology always is changing how useful certain weapons are. And technology for the weapons that destroy armor and air superiority has gotten insanely cheap. Raspberry Pi’s should rightly be terrifying to any nation that relies on armor and planes. Avionics has always been the difficult part for air defense.
Armor is a little bit different. The design of the weapons that can penetrate armor, and defeat things like reactive armor, or the imbecilic trophy system Israel uses (seriously, I still shake my head at Israel entering dense urban areas with tanks that use an interception system that literally makes screening infantry impossible. Like, what the actual fuck?!) is the expensive part. Once the design is completed for things like two stage rockets, or shaped charges, or explosively formed projectiles, then the actual production is cheap to produce. But designs are easy to transmit, and can be done anywhere by anyone.
The tech has gotten so cheap that even second rate military powers can buy or create weapons that can counter first rate military powers advantages for literally a millionth of the price.
And Israels siege and assault on the Gaza Strip has shown how fucking incompetent and undisciplined Israels infantry is. The majority of the casualties of Gazan civilians are from bombs, artillery, and soon now, starvation. Not the infantry. Their performance has been … pathetic. Only good for slaughtering the unarmed.
The myth of Israeli martial prowess has been broken, probably forever.
A smarter nation would start trying its damned best at making peace with its neighbors through mutual respect now, and not intimidation like it has.
Call it self defense, because it would be.
P.S. all of what I said above applies to the US, too. The next hundred years or so is going to be a bad time to be an empire. Well, it all applies except for the trophy system. That is a unique form of Israeli stupidity. But the US has it’s own unique stupidity in the F35, and the littoral ships it designed.
Every time I have a conversation with a pro-Palestinian or especially pro-Hamas person, they always end up losing their cool and attacking me. Just like in most pro-Palestine protests, people get violent and attack random Jews on the street or a Starbucks for some reason (there isn’t even Starbucks in Israel). The pro-Israel marches I’ve seen are just people singing the anthem or something. It’s pretty reflective of the entire situation, Israelis aren’t very interested in war, there’s nothing in the Gaza Strip that we need, no resources, no landmarks of interest, just more desert like the rest of our country. But Arabs and Muslims from all around our tiny strip of land simply hate us on a religious basis and want to see us gone. And we’ve no place to go. We won’t just lie down and die. Sorry.
No one is asking you to lay down and die. Good job trying to invoke victim status to again justify genocide.
Also, good job trying to antisemitically equate Judaism with the genocidal actions of the Israeli government. JVP does NOT want to hold your blood stained hands.
Here, try something out, if you actually want to understand, which I don’t think you do, but on the off chance.
Imagine you see a nation trying to commit genocide against its minority population of Jewish people that it has kept mostly locked up in a bantustan for the last 17 years. Imagine a citizen of that country who, presumably, isn’t actively participating in the slaughter of Jewish people starts trying to garner sympathy for the slaughter, and justify why the slaughter is okay.
Imagine how you’d want to react to that person.
I’m not Arab, just someone who firmly believes in Never Again. I will treat any worthless genocide justifying fuck the same way, as I’m treating you. I have the same disgust and disdain for the Azerbaijani justifying the ethnic cleansing of the Nagorno-Karbagh region. The same Azeris who got a fuck ton of weapons from Israel, by the by. Funny how Israel sides with and provides weapons to the wrong side in history.
I would hope that you would treat people you legitimately believe are committing genocide the same way, but from your words it is obvious that ‘Never Again’ meant nothing to you, so I suspect you wouldn’t.
Also, good job trying to imply protestors against genocide are antisemitic. I don’t give a fuck about your religion, or your ethnicity. I care about your disgusting actions and words.
Well, as long as you are 100% certain you are on the right side of history, you do you man. Just try not to hurt anybody.
I’d say the same, except your country is already hurting people. 35+k people already. Somewhere around 2/3 of which are women and children.
If you go by Israels numbers, it’s even more.
Finally, I will say something that should terrify you.
Israel has zero strategic depth. Anyone invades, and it is very quickly over. Again, nothing to do with religion or ethnicity, just geography. Israel is just too small to have strategic depth.
One major shield that Israel had (other than the nukes) was a myth of martial superiority and invincibility. However, for obvious reasons, Israels main strength lies in its armor, and its air force.
But technology always is changing how useful certain weapons are. And technology for the weapons that destroy armor and air superiority has gotten insanely cheap. Raspberry Pi’s should rightly be terrifying to any nation that relies on armor and planes. Avionics has always been the difficult part for air defense.
Armor is a little bit different. The design of the weapons that can penetrate armor, and defeat things like reactive armor, or the imbecilic trophy system Israel uses (seriously, I still shake my head at Israel entering dense urban areas with tanks that use an interception system that literally makes screening infantry impossible. Like, what the actual fuck?!) is the expensive part. Once the design is completed for things like two stage rockets, or shaped charges, or explosively formed projectiles, then the actual production is cheap to produce. But designs are easy to transmit, and can be done anywhere by anyone.
The tech has gotten so cheap that even second rate military powers can buy or create weapons that can counter first rate military powers advantages for literally a millionth of the price.
And Israels siege and assault on the Gaza Strip has shown how fucking incompetent and undisciplined Israels infantry is. The majority of the casualties of Gazan civilians are from bombs, artillery, and soon now, starvation. Not the infantry. Their performance has been … pathetic. Only good for slaughtering the unarmed.
The myth of Israeli martial prowess has been broken, probably forever.
A smarter nation would start trying its damned best at making peace with its neighbors through mutual respect now, and not intimidation like it has.
Call it self defense, because it would be.
P.S. all of what I said above applies to the US, too. The next hundred years or so is going to be a bad time to be an empire. Well, it all applies except for the trophy system. That is a unique form of Israeli stupidity. But the US has it’s own unique stupidity in the F35, and the littoral ships it designed.