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    Google needs to be broken up. It needs to separate in at least 5 different companies:

    1. Admob/Adsense
    2. Ads/Adwords
    3. Search
    4. Android
    5. Chrome
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      1 year ago

      Okay then… How do 3/4/5 make money? Ist currently everything but 1/2 loosing money in support of propping up the ads?

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        Charge a fee, advertising is a scourge and needs to be removed from all societies with extreme prejudice.

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            Advertising is based on mass-psychology and manipulation, it’s fundamentally unethical and its rooted in nazi propaganda.

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              Advertising isn’t rooted in Nazi propaganda lmao, it was here before and it will be here long after. Calling everything Nazi connected diminishes stuff that really is Nazi connected, like Fanta.

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                Bernays published Public Relations and Engineering of Consent in the 50’s, thats arguably when it became mainstream.

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              Indeed, advertisement makes us think that lies and exaggeration are normal. It is one of the causes of todays “alternative reality” people. Advertisement should be shunned and pushed back. Honesty and true information should replace it.

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      1 year ago

      AdSense and AdWords are essentially the same thing. AdWords is how they monetize AdSense.

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    Luckily, other browser manufacturers (Mozilla, Vivaldi, Brave, and even the WWWC) have already spoken out against this proposal. Google loves marketing it as ‘optional’, which it obviously won’t be once implemented. A system like this would be very dangerous for smaller browsers, as it’s incredibly vague who decides what authorities would be allowed to verify browsers.

    Additionally, this is presented as a way to remove captchas from the web by proving a request is coming from genuine hardware. However, this proves absolutely nothing about a request being genuine or non-spam. The only thing this proves is that it was created by a ‘genuine device’, so all a malicious user would have to do is to (automatically) send the request via a verified device and they’d pass the check.

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      Maybe it’s just Google search (ironic), but I couldn’t find anything about the W3C speaking against the proposal. If W3C is against it then I think it’s even more likely the entire thing would be shot down.

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        Could’ve sworn I saw it in an article or post on here somewhere… but of course now that I actually need the post I can’t find it. Doesn’t really matter though, Chrome can unfortunately push standards through even if others don’t approve, just due to their sheer size alone.

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    Everyone, please reach out to your local anti-trust government organization to ensure they are aware of this issue. They cannot do anything about something that they are unaware of. It’s easy to forget that the internet is a bubble and not everyone is clued into it’s issues.

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    Google became what it is because they had the best search results. Today, other like qwant and sometimes even bing are better. If it was not for Android, the reasons for remaining stuck with Google would have become sparse already. And I daresay Apple is now the less evil option.

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    I support Google on this one. Digital fraud is out of control. If you guys have a better idea to stop fraud and sustain the web ecosystem, let’s hear it.

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      Unironically: Ad blockers.

      A lot of fraud happens online via ads which are hosted by Google and Facebook.

      This is a power grab by Google. Nothing more.