Incandescent light bulbs are officially banned in the U.S.::America’s ban on incandescent light bulbs, 16 years in the making, is finally a reality. Well, mostly.

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    11 months ago

    I’ve been in the industry for over a decade and I find it fascinating how much lighting has changed in that time. When LEDs were first available, they were $60+ per bulb. Now you can get multipacks for under $10. Also, CFL bulbs were almost universally hated by everyone (and for good reason) now we no longer sell them. We strictly sell LEDs for regular lighting and we still sell incandescent specialty bulbs. Also, when LEDs first arrived there was a lot of distain for them, especially by the elderly. They wanted their energy wasting incandescent bulbs dammit! It seems the majority of them have come around because they’ve learned that LEDs are better.

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      I think the main issue with initial Led bulbs was their color was wrong. Incandescent bulbs emit light at 2700K, a nice warm white. Early LEDs emitted light at more like 5000K or there abouts, which is a really white light. Same with CFLs. Elderly people didn’t like that at all. Honestly it wasn’t just them, lots of people hated them for their too white of light.

      Today you can get LEDs that are 2700K and/or are adjustable to what ever color you want.

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        Any recommendations? I’ve struggle with LED light color temp off and on over the years. I haven’t looked into it in a while though. It always seems like if you want a low color temp it has to be an edison bulb which is really dim.

        On a separate note I’ve also had reliability issues with LED bulbs where they will blow out and emit smoke.

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          Look for colour names like “soft white” or “warm”. The 2700K is a dead give away for the colour you’re looking for.

          Also, separate note: check your appliances or fixtures for power spikes. cheaper LEDs are notoriously sensitive to voltage fluctuations

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              Look closely at packaging. If you’re in North America, Phillips is the most common for bulbs. They have packages marked 2700K, 5000K, and 6500K.

              The colours are as follows: 2700- soft white (yellow hue), 5000- bright white (white hue, almost no colour), and 6500- day light (blue-ish hue, similar to fluorescent).

              If you end up not being able to distinguish… ask an employee and they should be able to help

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                  Lol im dumb… forgot it was a 2 pt question.

                  Cheap way is to buy a surge protector/ power strip with surge protector.

                  Plug in appliances/lights that burn out faster than others. Periodically check surge protector to see if the internal breaker has been tripped.

                  Fancy way is to buy a multimeter and monitor voltage when large appliances turn on/off. That’s usually the most likely culprit for voltage spikes (as your home grid has to compensate for sudden increase in usage, which in turn causes voltage to fluctuate slightly)

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      It seems the majority of them have come around because they’ve learned that LEDs are better.

      died

      they died

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        Yes. Many of the people that objected also wore MAGA hats. I think the whole idea was that it was better for the environment and you know what that means.

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        11 months ago

        I specifically remember trump saying something about bringing back yellow light 😮‍💨

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      Is there a brand that’s better for LED? I get migraines and the stroking effect of LED bulbs can be a trigger.

      LED christmas bulbs particularly bad. It felt like walking into a rave at the Christmas store.

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        Regular brand LED bulbs don’t strobe at all, only the very cheap ones from AliExpress and the resellers of Chinese crapware (like Walmart) do. IKEA has some nice and cheap bulbs, for example.

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        There are LEDs with CCD power converter. I got one 10 years ago and tested it with a 240 fps camera, no flicker at all. I will not recommend a brand because it’s been years,but search for “ccd led bulb”.

        Also there’s a number called CRI, indicating how well it represents colors. This also may contribute to your headaches. 85 or higher is good, 90 is great. Just don’t trust these numbers on Amazon, the cheapest of cheap crap is marketed as " cri 90+" there.

        Or scratch what I just said and find a small store that specializes in lighting and ask the clerk (or email them).

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      This is why I don’t support overreach in regulation.

      Put a tax on it or something, but a full ban seems excessive. Now that most people understand that LEDs are superior, they are cheaper, and there are more options, most people will make the switch.

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        No really. A lot of people, even when shown proof, out of simple spite just double down on their position.

        When energy saving and early LED bulbs started to be deployed in my country, while the fade out of incandescent bulbs was put in place, we had runs for buying every single incandescent bulb available. The change was not welcome. Even if changing meant real, objective, tangible savings.

        People would put in large orders for bulbs, arguing they wanted to “have proper lighting as long has they lived”. Luckily, the stocks quickly ran out and some distributors simply refused to pass the stocks to the market.

        A government cutting off a product is not overreach: it’s forcing change that otherwise would not happen, for the better.

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          A lot of people, even when shown proof, out of simple spite just double down on their position.

          But is it enough to really matter? Especially after the market for incandescent shrivels?

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            I’m sorry, I’m not following your reasoning. Can you elaborate, please?

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              People will bitch about the one guy buying all the incandescent bulbs but ignore the fact that everyone else isn’t.

              1 old dude isn’t enough to make a difference.

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                This wasn’t one or two isolated cases: it was a race to the stores.

                I was a kid then and my grandparents got caught in the wave and bought more lamps that they required to light the entire house. Which later proved to be of bad quality and aided me in making their transition to energy saving bulbs.

                People would line up in front of stores to get the precious, precious bulbs, making the exact same sort of conversation and observations we can read throughout this thread, criticizing government and politics in general.

                The store owners would chime in and add fuel to the fire, stating a lot of people would lose their jobs, as the factories would close (cute fact: there was precisely zero factories for those products in the entire country).

                People are stubborn and will not change ways unless no other option is available and even then grudgingly, while companies only shift practices if forced, be it by force of law or by cash flow and profit goals.

                Governments enforcing positive laws and regulations, even if unpopular, are necessary measures to move things forward in a modern society.

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                  Most people willingly migrated to LEDs when the circumstances shifted in their favor. There was absolutely no law required. The fact that most people are using LEDs before this was even enforced kinda proves my point. The number of holdouts is small enough to be ignored.

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        No really. A lot of people, even when shown proof, out of simple spite just double down on their position.

        When energy saving and early LED bulbs started to be deployed in my country, while the fade out of incandescent bulbs was put in place, we had runs for buying every single incandescent bulb available. The change was not welcome. Even if changing meant real, objective, tangible savings.

        People would put in large orders for bulbs, arguing they wanted to “have proper lighting as long has they lived”. Luckily, the stocks quickly ran out and some distributors simply refused to pass the stocks to the market.

        A government cutting off a product is not overreach: it’s forcing change that otherwise would not happen, for the better.