• Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
    3514·
    10 months ago

    As is everyone taking every possible opportunity to mention Linux. It’s not like we don’t know it exists, we don’t need constantly reminding that it’s an option.

    Although it isn’t an option for a vast number of reasons, but mostly because corporate IT requires systems that run only on Windows. Therefore the only solution is Windows so the fact another operating system exists is utterly irrelevant and yet somehow you guys constantly keep mentioning it. Then we constantly have to point out that lots and lots of programs don’t run on Linux and then you will inhibitively start going on about Wine. It’s tiring. I would love it if we could have a conversation about Microsoft without having to pretend that other operating systems are viable alternatives.

    • TwilightVulpine@lemmy.worldEnglish
      219·
      10 months ago

      If Linux is not for you that’s understandable. The thing here is that they are not having a conversation about Microsoft. They are having the pettiest, least technical possible discussion about Linux, it’s devolving to pure clique shit talking.

      If you want to talk about Microsoft, just talk about Microsoft.

    • Alborlin@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1914·
      10 months ago

      Or how about

      1. You can’t easily define what apps start with startup
      2. Even when wine is installed , lot of programs won’t run in wine
      3. You cannot easily find where the program is installed like you can in windows
      4. You attach a external disk but some apps won’t see it mounted making it Impossible to explore in their file picker , not all but some
      5. There is almost huge lack of programs , for which there is huge possibility that a windows program exists.
      6. There is constant need to use terminal for lot of things for which you can’t a program see point 4.

      I keep telling Linux is still not for common home use for users who are in between power users and people only using it for browsing. This will get me downvotes here on Lemmy all the time . Linux edge lords are their own bubble.

      • ⸻ Ban DHMO 🇦🇺 ⸻@aussie.zoneEnglish
        7·
        10 months ago
        1. You can’t easily define what apps start with startup

        For point 2, that is true and improving. Always do some research about program compatibility before completely changing your computer’s OS.

        For point 3. Programs are generally installed in /usr/bin and ~/.var/app for Flatpaks (analogous to MS Store). Much easier than finding where MS store apps are installed.

        Never come across point 4, so I can’t dismiss it.

        1. As with 2, depends on your usecase

        2. GNOME Disk manager (comes with Fedora and Ubuntu) has options to mount drives to arbitrary locations if needed.

        I understand your argument but making points like these don’t really contribute to the discussion.

      • icedterminal@lemmy.worldEnglish
        92·
        10 months ago

        All but one of your points here appear to be your lack of understanding Linux and/or user error. Point 4 (2) is understandable due to Windows just being the default and most popular choice.

        • aStonedSanta@lemm.eeEnglish
          52·
          10 months ago

          And that’s exactly the fucking point. It’s a terrible idea to tell people to switch. Cause they don’t understand it.

          • icedterminal@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            10 months ago

            That’s not a very strong argument.

            When you started a job, did you understand it all? When you first started using Windows, Android or iOS, did you understand it all? No you didn’t. As with anything you’ve never used or done before, you won’t understand the ins and outs or know what to do in many situations. You learn about them. I certainly didn’t know much about Linux when I started using it. In an IT environment, I had to learn. I work with Windows and Linux on a daily basis. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. I use both on my personal devices.

            • aStonedSanta@lemm.eeEnglish
              1·
              10 months ago

              No. But starting a job pays me. Changing OS over a minor feature is a completely insane waste of my time. You are aware of the context of this post right??

        • DefederateLemmyMl@feddit.nlEnglish
          41·
          10 months ago

          Even point 4 is something I have never experienced, and is probably also lack of understanding.

          A filesystem is either mounted or it isn’t. Mounted for one program but not for another doesn’t exist. If they don’t see it in the filepicker, they probably just don’t know the mount point.

          • icedterminal@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            10 months ago

            Point 4 is listed twice in the comment. So I used “4 (2)” to point out what I was responding to. The second point 4.

      • FoxBJK@midwest.socialEnglish
        11·
        10 months ago

        Because MS puts work into backwards compatibility, so the business who paid someone to write an app for them 30 years ago can still use it today on a Win11 box. No shot of that happening on macOS, who has deprecated PowerPC and 32-bit support, and Linux is just too much of a wildcard.