• Space Sloth@feddit.dk
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    1 year ago

    I’m sticking with Firefox until some dev decides to use it’s engine to make a new better browser. I truly enjoy Arc and Vivaldi, but since they’re chromium i don’t trust them an inch with my personal data.

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      1 year ago

      LibreWolf is an option. It’s mainly just a Firefox fork but removes the adware and sponsored garbage as well as had more privacy-focused defaults, though IMO the defaults are too much and need to be toned back. No ads though so it’s 100% worth the switch.

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      1 year ago

      since they’re chromium i don’t trust them an inch with my personal data.

      This is such a ridiculous position. Do you have any evidence at all that every Chromium browser (even the ones specifically designed to avoid this) are transmitting your personal data?

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        1 year ago

        Evidence? OF COURSE!

        Have you even tried searching for it?

        Google even says so for Chromium on its own official page!

        https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/144289/privacy-with-chromium

        You don’t need to trust us. Trust Google, they are telling you legally if you want to listen.

        Also, look up the handful of open bugs on the Debian but tracker, where known people, with name and faces (I’ve met some on conferences), showcase and share how Chromium calls home and sends encrypted data. They share their Wireshark logs.

        https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=792580;msg=53

        Look up how Debian removed Chromium for a time, until some of it got removed upstream.

        And all of this doesn’t mean that Google cannot re-introduce it or add different approaches in new updates.

        Plus, Google actively creates and pushes for their “standards” via Chrome(ium), which allows them to push for even more surveillance.

        In addition, Chromium is not a community project. It’s developed behind closed doors, with a secret roadmap, and a code dump happens on release. That’s no way to develop the 90% of web browser market that society needs in this day and age. But, don’t think you will care about that, do you? you are happy with papa Google for the foreseeable.

        • HughJanus@lemmy.ml
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          1 year ago

          Have you even tried searching for it?

          Of course I have. I’ve never found any substantiation, which is why I’m asking. I use them every day so I would certainly like to know if there is, but the concerns I constantly see only apply to Chrome, and not Chromium-based browsers.

          Google even says so for Chromium on its own official page!

          This is specifically for the Chromium browser, not Chromium-based browsers. I know, it’s confusing. Chromium is basically just the open-sourced version of Chrome.

          Plus, Google actively creates and pushes for their “standards” via Chrome(ium), which allows them to push for even more surveillance.

          This is yet another item attributed to Chrome and it’s users. You can totally create a Chromium fork that adheres to conventional standards.

          • RealHonest@lemmy.one
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            1 year ago

            How hard can you simp for Vivaldi. Jesus Christ.

            You don’t think Google themselves admitting that Chromium has the same privacy notice is substantial? What more could you possibly need?

            What’s worse is that Vivaldi took an open source browser with a bunch of privacy concerns, added some things and closed the source. And you think it’s somehow less of a cause of concern.

            You’re nuts.