• catloaf@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    Just because you haven’t seen them doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

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          9 months ago

          Which Antifa chapter is she a member of? Who is the leader of that chapter? Do they have a website? If not, how do you join?

          Interesting that the article you pasted explains none of that, yet insists antifa is real based on “this person says they’re antifa.”

          So can you answer those questions? If not- how is it a real thing?

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            9 months ago

            Antifa is a movement without centralized control. There are no chapters, website, or membership. That is core to the movement, so questioning why no one can provide that information is really silly.

            I also have never met a member of Antifa, but there is enough evidence of their actions to make me certain the movement exists. Some people believe it exists, but as a false-flag movement, but I think that’s just conspiratorial thinking.

            Using, “I’ve never seen one,” as evidence is the kind of BS Jan6 insurrections use to say the election was stolen.

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              9 months ago

              So it’s a movement with no leaders, no chapters, no website, no membership… do they get together and organize? If so, how do they know when and where to go?

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                9 months ago

                When fascists announce they’re going to march you just show up to oppose them. And in that opposition to facism you are antifa. And when you go home you aren’t anymore. You’re just someone who has opposed fascists until the jackasses try again.

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                  9 months ago

                  Wait… so you’re saying antifa is “anyone who opposes a fascist?”

                  Because, that kind of sounds like it’s not a thing.

                  You seem to think that there are two concepts- “fascism” and “anti-fascism.” There aren’t. There’s fascism and then there’s everything else.

                  There is no antifa. There’s just everyone who isn’t a fascist that isn’t going to let them get away with running roughshod over their country.

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                    9 months ago

                    What do I know, I only have a history of direct action as an anarchist.

                    Antifa is a set of tactics and actions done specifically in opposition to fascist organizing. That lady who died at Charlottesville died being antifa.

                    There have been people who engaged in antifa before the modern fascism problem. The need is rising. Some will claim that label and when they do it’s their right as long as they do what it says on the tin. It’s a lot like food not bombs in that way. You aren’t FNB because you gave away free vegan food, but you don’t have to get permission to use that label if you’re giving away free vegan food and there’s no organization or hierarchy. It’s just a thing you can do and a label you can claim in the doing.

                    The problem is that it’s been demonized and used as a label for those not claiming it. But head on down to your local punk scene and there’s probably someone with an antifa patch who may very well have punched a Nazi

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                  9 months ago

                  Can you please explain the mechanism of this “word of mouth?” Are people privately emailing each other? Is this all clandestine?