Tech companies are famous for coddling their workers but after mass layoffs the industry's culture has shifted. Engineers say that getting hired can require days of work on unpaid assignments.
I do a lot of dev interviews. We do require a BS in computer science… it’s just a good way of filtering out the hordes of terrible candidates. Beyond that, the most important thing we look for is honest representations on the resume, and the ability to clearly show competency in the required areas. Ramblers, people who make shit up and can’t say “I don’t know” are filtered out quick. We do a 1hr tech screen, after which I make a recommendation and if good, the candidate is brought in for a second interview that is pretty much a formality.
It’s not a litmus test, it’s just a basic filter. You don’t understand the time wasted (for both parties) when recruiters present “self starters” and “driven” and “passionate” candidates. It’s not our goal to give people a chance, it’s our goal to find a great fit for the position.
Let me rephrase, to make myself crystal clear, because you didn’t get the tactful approach: that’s a shitty filter. By excluding people without a degree, you’re saying that ability to afford university for 4 years is more important than skill, experience, or knowledge.
It shows that you’re ignorant. It shows that your company has a toxic workplace.
It’s probably one of the dumbest flexes I’ve ever seen.
No, you’re right. Being fun at a party of techbros is totally a sign of superiority and not at all a sign of sociopathy 🤮
Tbf you’re probably not a terrible person, but that is a bad take. Rejecting someone based entirely on education, and not allowing for other factors (as is implied), is just bad for both your company and society.
The only scenarios where I’d think I wouldn’t require one are
I want cheaper labor
I am really desperate to fill a position
The skills I need in a candidate are incredibly niche, thus I want to widen the applicant pool.
#1 and #2 are indicative of other problems in your company. I get that you can be a good dev without a degree, but from an employer perspective, it seems like an easy way to save time and money on hiring. I am convinced that a lot of money is wasted on recruiters who throw everyone under the sun into the hiring process just so they can justify their existence.
I do a lot of dev interviews. We do require a BS in computer science… it’s just a good way of filtering out the hordes of terrible candidates. Beyond that, the most important thing we look for is honest representations on the resume, and the ability to clearly show competency in the required areas. Ramblers, people who make shit up and can’t say “I don’t know” are filtered out quick. We do a 1hr tech screen, after which I make a recommendation and if good, the candidate is brought in for a second interview that is pretty much a formality.
Elitist nonsense.
I have a bachelor’s of computer science, but some of the best coders I met just did a 2 year community college diploma.
I don’t think that spending lots of money on education is really a great litmus test, it’s just one minor indicator.
It’s not a litmus test, it’s just a basic filter. You don’t understand the time wasted (for both parties) when recruiters present “self starters” and “driven” and “passionate” candidates. It’s not our goal to give people a chance, it’s our goal to find a great fit for the position.
Let me rephrase, to make myself crystal clear, because you didn’t get the tactful approach: that’s a shitty filter. By excluding people without a degree, you’re saying that ability to afford university for 4 years is more important than skill, experience, or knowledge.
It shows that you’re ignorant. It shows that your company has a toxic workplace.
It’s probably one of the dumbest flexes I’ve ever seen.
Wow I bet you’re fun at parties
No, you’re right. Being fun at a party of techbros is totally a sign of superiority and not at all a sign of sociopathy 🤮
Tbf you’re probably not a terrible person, but that is a bad take. Rejecting someone based entirely on education, and not allowing for other factors (as is implied), is just bad for both your company and society.
Lol you talk as if I give a fuck
You talk like a bootlicker. At least I have a modicum of self-awareness.
You’re offensive.
The only scenarios where I’d think I wouldn’t require one are
#1 and #2 are indicative of other problems in your company. I get that you can be a good dev without a degree, but from an employer perspective, it seems like an easy way to save time and money on hiring. I am convinced that a lot of money is wasted on recruiters who throw everyone under the sun into the hiring process just so they can justify their existence.