IDF says it ‘completely rejects’ charge that its soldiers deliberately fired on any of the thousands of civilians killed in Israeli offensive

Israeli and foreign human rights groups have documented a long history of snipers firing on unarmed Palestinians, including children, in Gaza and the West Bank.

Palestinians in Gaza also report a terrifying new development in the latest Gaza war – armed drones able to hover over streets and pick off individuals. Called quadcopters, some of these drones are used as remote-control snipers that Palestinians say have been used to shoot civilians.

  • underisk@lemmy.mlEnglish
    32·
    7 months ago

    Buddy you said it in so many words in the first comment of this chain:

    Both sides of this conflict have some of the worst of humanity in positions where they get to decide over such things.

    They could be the most wretched beings on the face of this fucking earth and I would still support them against Israel. I don’t care how they feel or what they did. If you’re mad about the moral degeneracy of the leadership in Gaza then you have Israel to thank for that. They propped up Hamas deliberately over the more secular, sympathetic resistance groups in the strip specifically so people could make this disgusting argument. You are helping them, playing right into their fucking hands.

    • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      21·
      7 months ago

      They propped up Hamas deliberately over the more secular, sympathetic resistance groups in the strip

      I’m so sorry I didn’t specifically mention them in my lament of this exact fact.

      • underisk@lemmy.mlEnglish
        21·
        7 months ago

        If you lament this fact then stop bringing up how deplorable they are! They didn’t pick them because they’re actually morally abhorrent monsters, they picked them because they were counting on westerners racism towards islamic resistance groups. I guess they picked a winner!

        • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          11·
          7 months ago

          Buddy, I’m not gonna self-censor any part of discussing this.

          I’m perfectly convinced of the imperative to stop Israel even without that.

          • underisk@lemmy.mlEnglish
            21·
            7 months ago

            Great. I’m glad you’re comfortable with doing the job of the people you claim to despise. This is why I insulted you. Repeatedly. Thanks for confirming it was justified.

            • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyzEnglish
              11·
              7 months ago

              And I’m sorry that you feel the need to police others on how they talk about it, for fear it not be effective enough as propaganda.

              And I’m not using that word in a negative sense. The truth should already make it clear to anyone, what needs to happen.

              Your need to be choosy about which parts we mention is just sad, IMO.

                • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyzEnglish
                  11·
                  7 months ago

                  And again, you could have just added to what I said, instead berating me for bringing it up in the first place. Trying to shut someone up isn’t how you convince anyone. That specific person, or anyone else reading the discussion.

        • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          11·
          7 months ago

          And might I point out that you could have been much more effective by just adding this context you felt I left out, instead of insulting my assumed ignorance and having the entirety of what you wanted said removed.