If your favorite game gets pulled, so long as it’s not a requirement to be connected to the internet to use it, just pirate it. There is no better option if you purchased a game and it gets removed than to just flat out pirate it instead of buying a new copy, if you ask me. Just save your money in that case instead of going to another platform selling it.
Yes, but that misses the point. Mine was a criticism against the illusion of property Steam (and other platforms) create. I know i can pirate stuff, but still Valve has the power to delist or remove stuff from their platform at any time, without need to reimburse.
It ain’t digital property, it’s just long term online renting.
i wanted a separate message because my other comment was mostly just insulting you and this one isnt.
letting the perfect be the enemy of the good is obviously not good, but doesn’t apply here. Valve won. The good (easy digital distribution) beat the bad. Guess what, goalposts have fucking moved. Valve is now the establishment, providing a restrictive drm-filled customer-harming system. Now they could still be the new good, and perhaps push the video game sweatshops into less restrictive, less drm-filled, less anti-consumer modes of operation. Baby steps without completely upending the system would be, once again, not letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. But, like the vast majority of establishment organizations that have ever existed, thats not whats happening. They were the good, and now they are its enemy, but far from perfect.
Didn’t see any insulting part of either of your messages, so… All good I guess?
Anyway, that saying doesn’t mean where things are should remain acceptable. You’re right that corporations (being made up of supposed humans) don’t like to improve or change once they’re making profit, we’ll collectively need to keep pushing for better. But that’s a given, and based on history, has always been the case.
Still, I agree that pushing binary around beats physical media in theory. I don’t like the lack of control once you’ve got it, but as with all things, a company builds a taller wall, someone builds a taller ladder for lulz.
If your favorite game gets pulled, so long as it’s not a requirement to be connected to the internet to use it, just pirate it. There is no better option if you purchased a game and it gets removed than to just flat out pirate it instead of buying a new copy, if you ask me. Just save your money in that case instead of going to another platform selling it.
Yes, but that misses the point. Mine was a criticism against the illusion of property Steam (and other platforms) create. I know i can pirate stuff, but still Valve has the power to delist or remove stuff from their platform at any time, without need to reimburse.
It ain’t digital property, it’s just long term online renting.
You’re not wrong. But… these tough moments are where I tend to lean on Voltaire’s, “don’t let perfect be the enemy of good” to paraphrase
i wanted a separate message because my other comment was mostly just insulting you and this one isnt.
letting the perfect be the enemy of the good is obviously not good, but doesn’t apply here. Valve won. The good (easy digital distribution) beat the bad. Guess what, goalposts have fucking moved. Valve is now the establishment, providing a restrictive drm-filled customer-harming system. Now they could still be the new good, and perhaps push the video game sweatshops into less restrictive, less drm-filled, less anti-consumer modes of operation. Baby steps without completely upending the system would be, once again, not letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. But, like the vast majority of establishment organizations that have ever existed, thats not whats happening. They were the good, and now they are its enemy, but far from perfect.
Didn’t see any insulting part of either of your messages, so… All good I guess?
Anyway, that saying doesn’t mean where things are should remain acceptable. You’re right that corporations (being made up of supposed humans) don’t like to improve or change once they’re making profit, we’ll collectively need to keep pushing for better. But that’s a given, and based on history, has always been the case.
Still, I agree that pushing binary around beats physical media in theory. I don’t like the lack of control once you’ve got it, but as with all things, a company builds a taller wall, someone builds a taller ladder for lulz.
agreed in general
why is it good that valve can take away a video game you paid for?