• Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Yeah, but he was stripped of all of his power. Wagner group is being rolled into the state military. The opportunity for Wagner to push back and or give Putin the boot has passed.

    And, this dude was also an evil corrupt piece of shit. If he overthrew Putin, Russia would’ve still been an authoritarian disinformation state.

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      He was a straight-up Neo-Nazi and named the group after Hitler’s favorite composer. So yeah, he would have been infinitely worse than Putin… and that’s saying something.

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      Wagners are straight up fleeing into neighboring countries and Africa. They must have read the history books about what happens when one warlord assimilates another’s forces (they kill them quietly and easily now that they’re disarmed).

    • Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world
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      Yup.

      A couple months ago? There would be an argument that he could do more good than bad.

      Yesterday? He was a powerless nazi thug

      Today? Maybe he is in exile. Maybe he is a charred corpse on the ground. Either way, one less nazi.

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        1 year ago

        Seems like most reasonable folks didn’t think he’d reform Russia. The only “good” he’d cause would be unrest that would force Russia to pull out of invading their democratic neighbors.

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          I don’t think anyone expected a reform.

          But it would have been a comparatively bloodless coup by a powerful military figure that would likely have ended the current war in Ukraine. As opposed to the likely outcomes of

          1. putin finally loses it and hits the red button (which is actually a lot harder in russia, to my understanding, but is still a threat)
          2. Some less powerful individual(s) attempt a coup and we end up with warlords vying for control of russia’s nuclear arsenal

          Like, there is no good outcome of this. But prigozhin probably would have been the lesser of the evils as it would start another cycle of russia preparing for war (and ravaging The Global South but… nobody cares about them) and allowing The West to try and prop up a more palatable person to take control in a future coup.

    • bobman@unilem.org
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      1 year ago

      If he overthrew Putin, Russia would’ve still been an authoritarian disinformation state.

      He would at least cause a schism between the putin fanatics and everyone else.