Meat packing, farming & agriculture in North America is run entirely off the backs of immigrants, poor people and people of colour. People don’t choose these jobs, they take them out of necessity. This is just a fact, and a weird hill to die on.
If you want to rebut the argument that this is unique to meat, look no further than fruit picking in the US. It’s less risk of maiming and disgusting, but still dangerous and exploitative.
from the start, i said the problem was child labor. the weird hill to die on is ignoring that to whine about people eating meat. then, ignore what i said about being against child labor to try a “gotcha”. and then pretend to care only after being called out for being disingenuous.
The workers, most often immigrants and resettled refugees, slaughter and process hundreds of animals an hour, forced to work at high speeds in cold conditions, doing thousands of the same repetitions over and over, with few breaks.
ok, so you and the author of this article clearly have a problem understanding the word “forced”-- if they can choose to quit, they’re not being “forced”. yes, the job is terrible, and conditions should be improved, but it’s clear that you care more about people processing/eating meat that these people’s working conditions. and that’s why this isn’t the “gotcha” you think it is.
there are literal entire countries (including Canada off the top of my head) who have told other countries and their resettlement orgs ‘we see you have a humanitarian crisis, but we’re only accepting refugees if they work in our slaughterhouses’
I recognize you’re completely entrenched in this baffling perspective and it’s kinda hard to look at, honestly. you’ve got that “when sea levels rise, everyone living on the coasts should just sell their houses and move” kind of energy.
Since you have to mischaracterize my statements to such a degree just to make your point, you really don’t have that much of an argument, at least not with me. The amount of mental gymnastics you just performed in order to pull some kind of “gotcha“ on me is something you should’ve saved the Olympics a few weeks ago.
I suggest you direct your anger where it belongs, rather than random Internet strangers.
Geeze. You literally just refuse to acknowledge sources when they’re handed to you. That is just sad.
And if you think that anyone chose to be in some of the worst working conditions known to man just because they can choose between quitting and starving to death, then I’d say that’s downright ghoulish.
It’s not your sources I refuse to acknowledge, it’s your specious, fallacious argument that “the meat industry can be exploitative, therefore veganism.”
you’re assuming a lot here about the workers in that plant
wow, you haven’t looked into this, like, at all
and you have? what, with all the evidence you have to back up your claim?
Meat packing, farming & agriculture in North America is run entirely off the backs of immigrants, poor people and people of colour. People don’t choose these jobs, they take them out of necessity. This is just a fact, and a weird hill to die on.
If you want to rebut the argument that this is unique to meat, look no further than fruit picking in the US. It’s less risk of maiming and disgusting, but still dangerous and exploitative.
from the start, i said the problem was child labor. the weird hill to die on is ignoring that to whine about people eating meat. then, ignore what i said about being against child labor to try a “gotcha”. and then pretend to care only after being called out for being disingenuous.
literally the first article that came up searching for slaughterhouses https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2016/08/11/489468205/working-the-chain-slaughterhouse-workers-face-lifelong-injuries
not that I expect evidence to change your mind
ok, so you and the author of this article clearly have a problem understanding the word “forced”-- if they can choose to quit, they’re not being “forced”. yes, the job is terrible, and conditions should be improved, but it’s clear that you care more about people processing/eating meat that these people’s working conditions. and that’s why this isn’t the “gotcha” you think it is.
just more obliviousness
“i disagree, so i’ll insult you”
there are literal entire countries (including Canada off the top of my head) who have told other countries and their resettlement orgs ‘we see you have a humanitarian crisis, but we’re only accepting refugees if they work in our slaughterhouses’ I recognize you’re completely entrenched in this baffling perspective and it’s kinda hard to look at, honestly. you’ve got that “when sea levels rise, everyone living on the coasts should just sell their houses and move” kind of energy.
Since you have to mischaracterize my statements to such a degree just to make your point, you really don’t have that much of an argument, at least not with me. The amount of mental gymnastics you just performed in order to pull some kind of “gotcha“ on me is something you should’ve saved the Olympics a few weeks ago.
I suggest you direct your anger where it belongs, rather than random Internet strangers.
Geeze. You literally just refuse to acknowledge sources when they’re handed to you. That is just sad.
And if you think that anyone chose to be in some of the worst working conditions known to man just because they can choose between quitting and starving to death, then I’d say that’s downright ghoulish.
It’s not your sources I refuse to acknowledge, it’s your specious, fallacious argument that “the meat industry can be exploitative, therefore veganism.”