The sound of many of them exploding


  • Navarian@lemm.ee
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    10 days ago

    Five years ago, if you had asked me if Israel would be committing terrorist attacks across Palestine, Lebanon and beyond, I would have said absolutely not.

    I would have been wrong, even back then, but jesus fucking christ, what an absolute shambles.

    How my government supports this state-sponsored terrorism is beyond me.

    • Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com
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      10 days ago

      Hezbollah are enemy combatants. These were ordered by and for Hezbollah. Israel isn’t targeting non-combatants.

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        9 days ago

        Hezbollah is a political party as well as a paramilitary group. What if Canada did this to The Oath Keepers or CSPOA or The Proud Boys or another group in the US? They’re all objectively bad people, buy only a few have committed terrorist attacks. Do they all and the people who happen to be around them deserve to die by a foreign government’s actions?

      • Navarian@lemm.ee
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        10 days ago

        Israel isn’t targeting non-combatants

        How many thousands of children have been slaughtered by Israeli troops?

        If you want to be pedantic, and you’re talking only about this specific attack, children were killed in these pager/walkie-talkie blasts too. Are they enemy combatants to you?

        Don’t be a genocide apologist.

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        9 days ago

        Thats bullshit. From what I gather these pagers went out a long time ago, and Isntreal has no way of knowing who is around them when they explode.

        Out of the (I’m going to guess) 10,000 people maimed, dismembered, or injured in these two terrorists attacks, how many of them were innocent children and complete bystanders? Isntreal might not be targeting noncombatants, but its sure as fuck killing them, maiming them, and just generally ruining their lives. And its that indiscretion and complete lack of concern that is morally repugnant.

        Fuck Isreal.

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        10 days ago

        They verified that all of the devices were in the possession of Hezbollah before they detonated them?

        Is what why their pager terrorism killed a child and caused 2000+ injuries, including dismemberment of other children?

        Now they just repeated it, I’m sure with the same disregard for living people they have already shown.

        • nonailsleft@lemm.ee
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          10 days ago

          What do you think about Hezbollah reopening the hostilities back in October? Do you believe they could have prevented all this bloodshed if they just kept the border in peace?

            • nonailsleft@lemm.ee
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              10 days ago

              It’s whataboutism to say someone shouldn’t have started the fight in the first place?

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                The “fight” started with the colonization of Palestine, the theft of indigenous land, and the expulsion of half the native populace. Naming a random date or event in the past couple of years as the “start” of this conflict is brazenly dishonest.

                Every year, Israel expands its land seizures in occupied Palestine, but for some reason you don’t count that as sustaining hostilities. Sounds an awful lot like you’re willing to excuse Israeli terrorism while holding others to a different standard.

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                  10 days ago

                  Would you say that because of your personal understanding of the history, you’d consider any act of Hezbollah against Israel as justified, and any act of Israel to stop them as unjustified?

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                    10 days ago

                    No, I condemn all attacks against civilians. Hard to imagine, I’m sure, for someone who sees only one belligerent’s citizens as human.

                    But I am pointing out the ludicrous misrepresentation of history that Hezbollah “started” any aspect of this conflict. Hezbollah was created in response to Israel’s invasion of Lebanon. Israel invaded Lebanon because the PLO was launching attacks on Israel from southern Lebanon. The PLO was in Lebanon and before that in Jordan because they were driven out of their native homeland and made refugees due to the colonization of Palestine.

                    There is no aspect of this conflict that does not tie directly back to the violent disappropriation and explusion of the Palestinian people from their land. The conflict is and has always been about theft of land and homes, which continues unabated through the present day.

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            10 days ago

            What do you think about Israel never ceasing hostilities?

            For real, read a book every once in awhile.

            • nonailsleft@lemm.ee
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              10 days ago

              But Israel did cease hostilities, right untill Hezbollah started them again…

              • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                9 days ago

                Zios were murdering palestinians at record rates well before they started full genocide 1, 2.

                People inside the imperial core are generally completely ignorant and brainwashed about the reality of zionist genocide.

                • nonailsleft@lemm.ee
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                  9 days ago

                  Ah, yes. History started in '22.

                  You sound like you’re ready to shoot every ‘zio’ they put in front of you, no questions asked

              • Madison420@lemmy.world
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                10 days ago

                No they didn’t. They very specifically never stopped actions in countries they aren’t at war with and notably as the article states THEY WERE PLANTING BOMBS IN CIVILIAN ITEMS again in countries they aren’t at war with.

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                  10 days ago

                  These bomb-planting shenanigans only began after Hezbollah restarted the hostilities

                  Also, why do you consider devices used for military communications as civilian items (in all caps no less)

                  • Madison420@lemmy.world
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                    10 days ago

                    This is the second round of bombings with seemingly benign objects.

                    They are quite literally bought OTC they are in fact civilian objects, that’s why terrorists use them…

                    Seriously, a book… once.