Brooklyn cops shoot alleged fare-beater, also hit 2 bystanders and officer
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Four people were injured Sunday afternoon at a Brooklyn subway stop in what started as officers’ attempts to apprehend a man accused of skipping the station turnstile.

Police opened fire on a subway platform in Brooklyn during a confrontation with an alleged fare-beater, striking the man cops said was armed with a knife, two straphangers caught in the fray, and one of the firing officers, NYPD officials said Sunday.

One of those two passengers hit by the cops’ bullets, a 49-year-old man, was hospitalized in critical condition after he was hit struck in the head, according to the NYPD.

The two officers who opened fire were assigned to patrol the Sutter Avenue subway stop in the 73rd precinct when they spotted a man skip the station turnstile and walk through an open gate toward the train platform, Chief of Department Jeffrey Maddrey explained at an evening press conference from Brookdale Hospital.

  • capital@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    the man cops said was armed with a knife

    Title is meant to make you believe the shooting is about the fare. That seems deliberate.

    • thermal_shock@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 months ago

      still worth shooting two innocent people? can’t radio his description? was he “armed” or did he use it? huge distinction there. I’m always “armed” with my pocket knife, should I start dodging bullets? was he being pursued for a crime?

      also, without video the cops are lying by default. can’t trust a cop to do the right thing ever.

      • capital@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        I’m always “armed” with my pocket knife, should I start dodging bullets?

        Would you pull it without being specifically asked to in a police encounter? Don’t be obtuse. (Edit: And say you’ll kill them)

        I have no problem waiting for a video to decide on this one, personally. But the title is dogshit.

        2nd edit: Here’s another source which has a still of the video, showing the knife.

        I conceal carry. Believe it or not, I would inform police that I’m carrying as soon as an encounter starts, tell them where it is on my person, and ask if they would like to see my CCW license. But I’m not a fucking idiot, so…

        • Malfeasant@lemm.ee
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          2 months ago

          Would you pull it without being specifically asked to in a police encounter?

          This basically amounts to “you should care about Haitians eating pets because you like animals”, it overlooks that the veracity of the claim is not established…

        • thermal_shock@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 months ago

          I agree with all your points, I just don’t trust police at all. it’s been repeatedly proven they will lie and jam you up, and they have too much power. their word means shit to me, video, or at least audio of it happening, even a legit witness, or they are lying off the bat.

          I was even recently pulled over by a cop in an unmarked car saying I cut him off. he didn’t pull me over until I flipped him off for blaring his horn at me. he reversed on the highway to follow me off the exit and still didn’t put on lights, he was a road rager to me at that point and was ready to defend myself, I carry CCW also. he pulled up to my driver’s side and yelled at me from the other lane, no indication at all it was a traffic stop, so I told him to fuck off, didn’t care or know that he was police.

          when he followed me into the parking lot, he finally put on lights. I got out recording, dashcam going as well. I repeatedly tell him if he’s a real cop to get someone else there now, I didn’t give him my id, just kept telling him to give me a ticket or fuck off. kept telling him he was butthurt over the middle finger, if I was really guilty of cutting him off, he should have pulled me over when I got in front of him, not after I flipped him off. I must have told him to fuck off and fuck your mom 10 times. I wasn’t having any of his shit.

          another unit arrives with a ticket book, and he lied on the ticket, put some charge that was “reckless driving” about not coming to a stop before entering a highway, which was complete bullshit. I go to court, present dashcam of me making a safe lane change with blinker and space, judge is like wtf is this charge? immediately dismissed it, literally 2 min from calling my name.

          cop accosts me outside the courtroom and still tries to tell me I’m wrong, admitting that he gets run off the road all the time. he’s a shitty driver, claims he didn’t see my blinker (no dashcam on his vehicle of course) and really pulled me over for hurt feelings. fuck him.

          point is, I would have had reckless driving on my record had I not defended myself over this shitty cop. before the court date, I was looking at the exact citation and was driving myself crazy trying to figure out how that applied to what actually happened. luckily the judge saw and it was just as confused when he read it out loud. I fucking hate cops if you can’t tell.