• Mihies@programming.dev
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    2 months ago

    Looks like murders of innocent civilians were done by semites… As it’s most often the case.

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      2 months ago

      A collateral civilian death during a military action has never been considered “murder.” It can’t be, since it’s unintentional.

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        Just completely ignore the concept of proportional response and the Principle of Proportionality.

        If you’re going to pretend to be an expert on international law…

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            In Gaza? Yeah, no. The reply was in response to OP and my reply was to that reply. We are talking about Gaza here.

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              1.3 civilians per militant also meets the definition of proportionate; during the US action in Fallujah it was 7:1 and the ICJ had no issue with that at all.

              Urban combat is destructive for the people who live there; they should simply have not started a war on Oct 7th.

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        There has been quite a lot of collateral civilian casualties, how many more people must die and how many more people must suffer under poverty in the name of the great American empire?

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          There has been quite a lot of collateral civilian casualties, how many more people must die

          None, if Israel’s enemies surrender and end the war. That’s how war works.

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            Do you genuinely think thats how the world work? Not Israel nor the Israeli people will ever know peace as long as Israel exists as an extension of the American Empire. If all of Israels enemies surrender then the American Empire will simply create new enemies for them to fight in their perpetual endless war.

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              Not Israel nor the Israeli people will ever know peace as long as Israel exists as an extension of the American Empire.

              We’ll know peace because everyone like you, everyone who won’t accept a Jewish state in the Middle East, will fight until you die. And you’ll lose.

              Peace comes at the end of war.

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                Have you forgotten that Iran was once an Israeli ally, or that Israel once held Lebanon as a puppet? Throughout history Israel has backstabbed allies and continuously made its own enemies. Hamas was made in large part due to Israel interference in Gazas politics as was the PLO. Peace was never the goal of Israel, it was always conflict. Whenever the knesset members protest the war theyre called traitors and even beaten up. How many people must die for your dream of a so called Jewish state and for whom would the state truly be for. We can tell by the rise of Kahanism to that the Jewish state is clearly not for all Jews.

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                  Have you forgotten that Iran was once an Israeli ally, or that Israel once held Lebanon as a puppet?

                  When did Israel “hold” Lebanon?

                  Hamas was made in large part due to Israel interference in Gazas politics as was the PLO.

                  Were either Hamas or the PLO allies of Israel? If the PLO was the ally of Israel then why did they kill the entire Israeli Olympics team in Munich?

                  Peace was never the goal of Israel

                  Peace has always been the goal of Israel. The elimination of all Jews has always been the goal of Hezbollah and Hamas and they’ll die for it.

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                    Before Hezbollah Israeli money was constantly being pumped into Lebanon. Also once again you’re missing my point, both Hamas and Hezbollah were created to be enemies. Im addition you’re still ignorent to the economics of war and foreign interests. It matters not what Israel wants when its nothing but an extension of the American Empire.