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minus-squaremy_hat_stinks@programming.devlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up11·10 个月前100k USD per engineer assumes they’re exclusively hiring from US and Switzerland, that’s not a general “developed country” thing. US is an outlier.
minus-squareTja@programming.devlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up9arrow-down1·10 个月前US and Switzerland are way over 100k. For Netherlands and Germany 100k is a good approximation for the company costs for a senior SWE.
minus-squaremy_hat_stinks@programming.devlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1arrow-down1·edit-210 个月前I did already back up the claim with a source, but okay: US: Senior 128k USD, mid-level 94k USD CH: Senior 118k CHF (~139k USD), mid-level 95k CHF (~112k USD) DE: Senior 72k EUR (~80k USD), mid-level 58k EUR (~65k USD) NL: Senior 69k EUR (~77k USD), mid-level 52k EUR (~58k USD) Yes, US and Switzerland are outliers.
minus-squareTja@programming.devlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1arrow-down1·10 个月前Yeah, 80k gross for the worker creates close to 100k costs for the employer.
minus-squareoce 🐆@jlai.lulinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up6·10 个月前I’m talking about the cost of the engineer for the company, not the salary, which is less relevant here. In some EU countries, the salaries may be lower, but the taxes are higher to pay for the social system, so the cost for the company is similar.
minus-squareGeneral_Effort@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·10 个月前Yes. Also, Europeans work fewer hours per year. There are big differences between EU countries, though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_annual_labor_hours
100k USD per engineer assumes they’re exclusively hiring from US and Switzerland, that’s not a general “developed country” thing. US is an outlier.
US and Switzerland are way over 100k. For Netherlands and Germany 100k is a good approximation for the company costs for a senior SWE.
I did already back up the claim with a source, but okay:
US: Senior 128k USD, mid-level 94k USD
CH: Senior 118k CHF (~139k USD), mid-level 95k CHF (~112k USD)
DE: Senior 72k EUR (~80k USD), mid-level 58k EUR (~65k USD)
NL: Senior 69k EUR (~77k USD), mid-level 52k EUR (~58k USD)
Yes, US and Switzerland are outliers.
Yeah, 80k gross for the worker creates close to 100k costs for the employer.
I’m talking about the cost of the engineer for the company, not the salary, which is less relevant here. In some EU countries, the salaries may be lower, but the taxes are higher to pay for the social system, so the cost for the company is similar.
Yes. Also, Europeans work fewer hours per year. There are big differences between EU countries, though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_annual_labor_hours