As more and more states pass laws targeting “pornographic material” in books and online, they are repeatedly running up against a problem: The Bible has not just a few passages that could be considered indecent

  • awwwyissss@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    arrow-down
    56
    ·
    1 year ago

    Don’t put words in my mouth or accuse my of something you made up in your mind.

    • bitsplease@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      33
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      I don’t need to put any words into your mouth, your reply to the comment was to ignore all the real, objectively true examples and just claim that despite the fact that they’re the actions of real conservative policy makers, that they somehow have nothing to do with real conservative policy

      You ignore the faults of real world conservatism, holding up this idealistic version of conservatism you have in your head as “real” conservatism. Ill bet you also hold that conservatism has nothing to do with anti-LGBT+, despite their policy makers constantly making anti-LGBT+ policy decisions

      • awwwyissss@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        38
        ·
        1 year ago

        You’re completely ignorant of who I am and you’re reinforcing my initial point that we should be careful about creating an echochamber.

        • bitsplease@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          23
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          And you’re reinforcing mine by continuing to not actually address any of the actual points.

          Pointing out actual, provable examples of selective enforcement by conservatives isn’t an “echo chamber” it’s discussing real world politics

          Ultimately it looks from my perspective like you’re falling into the classic trap of just assuming that when a lot of people disagree with you, that they’re just mindlessly repeating talking points - rather than ever considering that your own view might be skewed. Further reinforced by the fact that you steadfastly refuse to actually talk about the issue, and instead just keep deflecting and crying “ECHO CHAMBER”.

          And no, I have no idea who you are, why should I care though? This is a discussion about conservative politics, not you or your feelings.

          • awwwyissss@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            arrow-down
            23
            ·
            1 year ago

            You’re trying to say “there are many examples of selective enforcement in conservative laws” and I’m saying “yeah, no shit, I agree with you”

            Meanwhile I’m being attacked for saying it’s important to be reasonable, demonstrating the echo chamber I’m talking about.

            • bitsplease@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              14
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              So if you agree that what’s being said is factual, then what exactly is the concern here regarding “echo chambers”?

              A echo chamber is dangerous when people are spreading misinformation, a group of people acknowledging a very real negative aspect of a major political party is in no way “echo chamber” type behavior.

              Now if we were saying “all conservative voters and politicians are Nazis”, id agree with you that caution should be given about echo chambers, but cautioning about echo chambers when objective facts are being discussed comes across much more as you trying to deflect away from facts you don’t like being discussed.

              Would it help you if we also talked some trash about democrats?

              Biden is too old for office

              Most elected democrats are hypocrites, at least to some extent

              Virtually every politician, including the left leaning ones, in the US are corrupt to som extent, and usually to a severe degree

              There? Are you satisfied that we’re not an echo chamber?

              • clutch@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                1 year ago

                Not denying that Biden is very old and that any vote for him carries a material probability that it also elects the VP for president, the vast majority of politicians are very old in the USA

              • aidan@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                6
                ·
                1 year ago

                The concern is that you said “conservatives”, not “what’s popular amongst conservative politicians”, or “what’s popular amongst conservative media”, or even “most”. You just said conservatives, that is villifying all people by nature of a describing themselves by a very broad term(or even someone else ascribing it to them). Their initial complaint was generalization and you attacked them with evidence of it being true for some conservatives.

                • bitsplease@lemmy.ml
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  6
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  Who elects conservative politicians?

                  Who consumes conservative media?

                  Every person who votes conservative is guilty of the behavior I describe because - As pointed out above - they vote in the politicians who do these things

                  You can’t vote a politician into power and then not take responsibility for their actions

                  • aidan@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    4
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    Every person who votes conservative is guilty of the behavior I describe because - As pointed out above - they vote in the politicians who do these things

                    Then essentially every American who votes is guilty of drone bombing civilians because presidents from Republicans and Democrats did it.

    • CADmonkey@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      30
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      Don’t put words in my mouth or accuse my of something you made up in your mind.

      Translation: I don’t have an argument for any of the things posted so I’m going to accuse a random person of something instead

      • aidan@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        1 year ago

        I mean they just said don’t generalize, not that there isn’t widespread hypocrisy.

        • Vespair@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          9
          ·
          1 year ago

          No dude, fuck you and your weasel words and moving goalpost. You made a shit comment and got proven wrong. Now’s the time to gracefully take the L; anything else just makes you look like a jackass.

        • CADmonkey@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          Lol, you prove my point more eloquently than I could have on my own. Well done, and keep getting mad at strangers online it’s probably the best part of your life.