• yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de
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    2 months ago

    none of the countries have killed as many children as Israel

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Chechen_War

    100,000–130,000 civilians killed (Bonner)[21] 80,000–100,000 civilians killed (Human rights groups estimate)[22][23] 30,000–40,000+ civilians killed (RFSSS data)[24] At least 161 civilians killed outside Chechnya[c] 500,000+ civilians displaced[citation needed]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War

    Estimate total number of casualties: 30,000 civilians dead (25,000 killed and 5,000 missing) according to AI[24] ~80,000 killed in Chechnya (GfbV estimate)[25] More in neighbouring regions 40,000–50,000 civilians killed (Kramer)[26] More than 600 killed during attacks in Russia proper.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War:

    11,000+ civilians killed (confirmed)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Syrian_civil_war

    Number of killed civilians by Russian forces: 6861 - 8729+

    Add a couple hundred of killed Georgian civilians and you have a range for Russian civilian kills in the last 30 years of:

    80,000 - 230,000


    If we count genocides perpetrated by Turkish nationalists in the Ottoman Empire and continued by newly founded Turkey we have:

    • 600,000 - 1.5 million Armenian civilians killed
    • 300,000 - 900,000 Greek civilians killed

    As to genocides perpetrated solely by the state of Turkey:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dersim_massacre

    Turkish Kurdish anthropologist Dilşa Deniz estimates the number of deaths to be between 46.000 to 63.000.[65][66][67][68][69][70][71][72] Historian Hans-Lukas Kieser writes that 40,000 is implausibly high.[73] Historian Annika Törne estimates 32,000 to 70,000 dead as a result of massacres

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zilan_massacre

    Deaths: 5,000 - 15,000

    Several hundred more Kurdish civilians have been killed in the past few decades by Turkey.

    But you’re right that in the past few decades Turkey hasn’t killed as many Kurdish civilians as Israel has Palestinian civilians. Turkey is “just” commiting cultural genocide right now.

    • basmati@lemm.ee
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      2 months ago

      There were ~4 million gazan citizens in Sept 2023, the most recent estimates are around 2,5 million. Thank you for proving Israel is worse than all countries you listed.