Don’t think I need to summarize this one. This is bad news for everyone.

  • Jumi@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    53
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    29 days ago

    Humanity will be just another dead branch on the tree of life

    • chaogomu@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      32
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      29 days ago

      Humans are pretty resilient. Adaptable to any climate, even the mess of a climate we created.

      Now, I’m not saying that all 8 billion of us will survive.

      What I’m saying is, the minimum viable genetic population for humans is about 2000 individuals.

      • Random_Character_A@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        12
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        29 days ago

        When food runs out for even a portion of those 8 billion, results are gonna be nasty.

        It’s hard to talk about climate initiatives when 1/3 of the planet is shooting eatch other. In worst case with nukes.

      • CitizenKong@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        29 days ago

        Yep, there will always be humans as long as there is literally anything we can hunt/forage and eat.

        If that will resemble what we perceive as civilisation is another question entirely.

        • Danquebec@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          28 days ago

          50 if you’re carefully planning breeding.

          2000 for a good chance to persist long-time under normal breeding conditions

        • chaogomu@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          28 days ago

          I’ve seen some of the same estimates. I settled on 2K because that’s what is estimated to have survived the To a supervolcano. Or rather the non-African population that survived.

          Homosapiens in Africa actually did quite well comparatively.

      • XIIIesq@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        28 days ago

        Right. We survived the ice age with stone age tech.

        Not saying that this makes any of this OK but resilience is absolutely one of humanities highest spec traits.

      • Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        28 days ago

        Humanity is the only species capable of the arrogance required to believe we deserve to endure. Our survival instincts are ultimately self-defeating because we refuse to evolve socially. Instead we make wars and loot resources, rinse and repeat.