A lawsuit, filed by patrons of a county library in Arkansas, has been allowed to move forward by a federal court. The First Amendment lawsuit plausibly alleges the library’s decision to move anything determined to be “LGBTQ” from the children’s section to the adult’s section violates the First Amendment right to equitable access to information. (via Courthouse News Service)
Here’s how this started, according to the decision [PDF] that moves this lawsuit forward:
[I]n late 2022 or early 2023 the Crawford County Library System implemented a policy under which its library branches must remove from their children’s sections all books containing LGBTQ themes, affix a prominent color label to those books, and place them in a newly-created section called the “social section.” Plaintiffs allege this policy was imposed on the Library System by the Crawford County Quorum Court in response to political pressure from constituents who objected, at least partly on religious grounds, to the presence of these books in the children’s section.
Don’t bother. The dude is a troll.
obviously
But it is still worth making sure there are voices other than “the TV made me gay because Hugh Jackman is friends with a pretty boy” nonsense
it’s better to just write new comments and downvote such that theirs get burried.
Engaging them just makes longer threads that draw attention to their comments. Everytime you reply, he comes back and adds more comments.
“Just ignore the trolls” works when someone is asking “Why” or “is Brad leaving?”
“just ignore the trolls” doesn’t work when we are talking about the right for people to exist.
Because the bigots will just glom on to what makes them happy. And they’ll inevitably argue they are being “silenced” if they get downvoted (assuming they don’t get support from other chuds). And then naive idiots will see that and just assume they are seeing a “less popular” viewpoint. Especially when half the other comments will be about how reddit is a bastion of leftist thought and social justice warriors (yup…).
So you latch on to the semi-coherent chuds. You pretend they are acting in good faith and are just misguided. And you correct them. And THEN you have some fun when they show their asses.
Because now? Those “Well, both sides need some thought” idiots actually get “both sides” rather than just an echo chamber of hate.
Well he is also arguing to bury them in downvotes, which is partially helpful towards dealing with them
But since that doesn’t matter on lemmy/kbin maybe reporting would be better. but still downvote since the option is there of course.
They also have fun with it. Their goal is to waste your time. So even if you have fun with it, you’re still boosting the behavior so they can go back to their corners and share it with others, who then also come back.
There’s a reason so many spaces just rely on banning. Your time is better spent sharing reasonable articles for the people who actually are semi-coherent, and you’re going to have more effect doing that.
I don’t mind spending some of my time arguing for the existence of other human beings. I waste MUCH more time doing MUCH stupider things. Like explaining to you why just leaving bigots to preach hate is not a good thing.
And that assumes we have good faith moderators. There is a LONG history of chud mods no actioning the bigots who “don’t break the rules” and leaving up dog whistles and outright misinformation. So give them an opportunity to make it clear just what they are saying.
Because “don’t feed the trolls” is some enlightened centrist nonsense and is one of the many things that has led to the world being so fucked. Because if there are no voices pushing back against hate then… hate wins. And it continually does.
My point isn’t to not argue for the existence of human beings, just be selective about who you argue with and how that draws attention to them. You can do that without replying to them to bring them back. Just reference their name without @ing them. You can share this info without that.
“don’t feed the trolls” not enlightened centerist nonsense, and there aren’t good-faith moderators on lemmy.world. This has been around for 30+ years at this point, and people do it because it works, and it’s been researched. Removing or diminishing their voice is the only thing that helps, regardless of how its done, and there’s research on this plus tons of experience of people modding communities.
No. Time and time again, it has been shown that “don’t feed the trolls” is horrible advice. Here is a pretty decent article I found after 15 seconds of googling.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/12/17561768/dont-feed-the-trolls-online-harassment-abuse
And I already addressed this above.
So… I don’t know why you are so hell bent on your post, provided without comment, not having people pushing back against folk arguing in bad faith about “advanced sexual theory”. But… well, I guess I will take your advice regarding one apparent troll.
Not research, but cool.
I’m not hell-bent on people pushing back against folks arguing against it – I LOVE that, and I love that you want to do that. I’m against people doing it in ways that boost their voices and what they’re saying and giving them more platform to do it. I gave you a few options. You can also dig up news articles about this issue and post them.
But you do you.
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Its okay. Just pray REAL hard and those impure thoughts about the mailman might go away.
Your priest might even have a suppository to help you with that.
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