Wouldn’t that even more of a reason to protest? It’s almost a meme at this point, but the US is the only developed country without universal healhcare. But people keep voting for the party that countless times has threatened to cut even Medicare.
And if a random dude in Germany knows this, every voter in Bumfuck, Nebrahoma should, too, but here we are.
It could be as simple as voting for the right person (Bernie Sanders in the past, maybe AOC in the future), but the fact is most Americans believe what billionaire TV told them and don’t want Universal Healthcare.
I think you’re underselling the effects of fifty years of deliberate, targeted propaganda a bit. This isn’t the result of measured thought, this is what happens when you allow a right-wing media apparatus to operate unchallenged for generations. (Not alone, other factors like our national narrative of self-reliance and an erosion of resources and respect for public education are significant. As well as racism since we never properly dealt with the losers of the Civil War)
Were you born in the last decade or do you not remember Democrats moving mountains just to get Obamacare passed? Which gave me affordable healthcare when I had none.
The insurance companies were ecstatic about Obamacare. A big ole fat blank check from the American public, backed by the US government. They had to cover more but the feeling was, and it ended up being true, that they’d claw back their exclusions in court.
Obamacare was a health insurance scheme in a healthcare costume. Maybe at inception it was about healthcare, but after the Democrats spent months trying to negotiate with Republicans and giving them pointless compromise after compromise, and the Republicans still refused to support it, they passed health insurance reform, mandated everyone buy it, and paved the way for the fastest increases in health insurance costs in history.
I mean, the democrats haven’t given us healthcare either, despite having had the opportunity more than once. Best they’ve done is make a nationwide marketplace and told us we have to buy healthcare from one insurance corporation or another, or we get fined in the form of additional taxes for not contributing to billionaires.
They didn’t have the votes to pass anything better, and even this the Republicans tried to undo.
Now without McCain (or some similar with some convictions), you can kiss Obamacare goodbye. And I’m 90% sure they will repeal it without a replacement.
And I’m 90% sure they will repeal it without a replacement.
Oh absolutely. Look what happened when McCain shot down the last effort. They didn’t go back to the drawing board and re-work it and try again. They just gave the fuck up. After spending years saying they could do better than Democrats.
I mean, the democrats haven’t given us healthcare either
They gave me affordable healthcare when I was younger (Obamacare). It isn’t always about getting exactly what you want, because you never will in politics. It’s about scraping and clawing and fighting to get anything, at all. And in my lifetime I’ve gotten WAY more out of Democrats than Republicans. Respect where respect is due. It took a monumental effort for Obama to get that shit done.
Baby steps to universal healthcare.
But we just lost dozens of baby steps by electing Republicans. Good job voters.
First of all, “one party” simply asked for regulation instead of bending over for the NRA without it even reaching around to return the courtesy.
Second, there is a reason why lone gunmen shoot up schools and not military bases.
What are you gonna do when the government comes after you with your scrawny ass weapon? It’ll work against a neighbor, sure, but the military can see through your walls using wifi alone. There’s a literal helicopter above your house tracking your every move. They know more about you than you realize. This is the strongest army in the world we’re talking about.
And, even if violence sounds tempting, there are so many things to do before any of that, like resist and organize. You can definitely fight back in man other ways besides a picket sign and a gun. I’m not sure why those are the only two options.
No way that would work here. We have like, grass and stuff. The sand helps to… slow them down or something…
It’s not that funny but I’m poking at the anti 2A people who always ask what you plan to do with your rifle against an apache helicopter. There’s good examples to point to as you noted, but I’m more interested in the obvious counter point, which is what are you going to do to that apache without a gun? I never hear an answer to that one. Obviously nobody on the ground is going to be having a good time in that situation but at the end of the day I’d rather be taking shots at it than throwing rocks or just lying face down and hoping they miss me.
Is he mowing people down? He’s purging and people are resisting, as they should. And despite that the only threat has been towards us foreigners. You have more to worry about your fellow bleeding heart patriots. Arm yourselves against those first if you must.
The point of the second amendment isn’t to go toe-to-toe with the military and never has been. It’s to make every citizen a potential threat to those in power, and to allow for guerilla warfare.
A pistol can’t beat a tank, but it can kill a politician or general if it’s weilded by the right random person at the right time and location.
Americans can vote, and a majority of them voted for this a short few months ago. This is exactly what he said he would do. This is what he did the previous 4 years he was in power. Americans want this. They don’t even have the excuse of popular vote this time around. They fully committed to this.
I’m not fighting in a violent revolution against an insane retarded fascist controlling the most powerful military on earth because some people explicitly chose to not prevent the fascist from taking office out of their sense of virtue pearl clutching.
I’m not fighting in a fucking violent revolution against an insane retarded fascist controlling the most powerful military on earth because some people explicitly chose to not prevent the fascist from taking office out of their desire to pressure me to fight in a fucking revolution (left accelerationists), I hope they have fun getting shot/tortured by fascists.
I owe both of these groups nothing. I did not choose to be born and I did not choose their revolution, I’m out. I hope they’re happy with the shitty world they’ve enabled.
Violent revolution isn’t option 2 but it might very well be necessary, and I don’t blame you for wanting no part of it but we’ll all be thankful if it happens. People have had to make tough choices in the face of fascism and evil throughout history and it’s only thanks to them that those things have been rebuffed in the past.
49.8% (so rounding it would be 50%) and 3 million people more than in 2020. And a whole a while 14 million more than in 2016. Eligible voters who didn’t vote made an explicit choice and are equally complicit.
They had a choice of a dumbass and literal criminal and a prosecutor and they made their choice.
The only thing that Americans can do is obvious and yet all I’ve seen online is finger wagging and “hot takes”. Fucking embarassed for you.
If we protest we lose our jobs which means we lose our healthcare. Are you beginning to see how they have us by the balls?
If someone has you by the balls and they won’t let go, then cut off their hand.
Wouldn’t that even more of a reason to protest? It’s almost a meme at this point, but the US is the only developed country without universal healhcare. But people keep voting for the party that countless times has threatened to cut even Medicare.
And if a random dude in Germany knows this, every voter in Bumfuck, Nebrahoma should, too, but here we are.
Almost half of Americans live paycheck-to-paycheck. One day of missed work means that their kids could starve.
It’s just not that simple. Believe me, we all wish it was.
It could be as simple as voting for the right person (Bernie Sanders in the past, maybe AOC in the future), but the fact is most Americans believe what billionaire TV told them and don’t want Universal Healthcare.
I think you’re underselling the effects of fifty years of deliberate, targeted propaganda a bit. This isn’t the result of measured thought, this is what happens when you allow a right-wing media apparatus to operate unchallenged for generations. (Not alone, other factors like our national narrative of self-reliance and an erosion of resources and respect for public education are significant. As well as racism since we never properly dealt with the losers of the Civil War)
Good luck on voting for anyone that isn’t a token in future elections.
Don’t worry, neither party gives a shit about healthcare. It doesn’t matter who we vote for.
Bernie Sanders thinks otherwise. But people seem to prefer Clinton and Biden.
Were you born in the last decade or do you not remember Democrats moving mountains just to get Obamacare passed? Which gave me affordable healthcare when I had none.
I worked in health insurance when that happened.
The insurance companies were ecstatic about Obamacare. A big ole fat blank check from the American public, backed by the US government. They had to cover more but the feeling was, and it ended up being true, that they’d claw back their exclusions in court.
Obamacare was a health insurance scheme in a healthcare costume. Maybe at inception it was about healthcare, but after the Democrats spent months trying to negotiate with Republicans and giving them pointless compromise after compromise, and the Republicans still refused to support it, they passed health insurance reform, mandated everyone buy it, and paved the way for the fastest increases in health insurance costs in history.
I mean, the democrats haven’t given us healthcare either, despite having had the opportunity more than once. Best they’ve done is make a nationwide marketplace and told us we have to buy healthcare from one insurance corporation or another, or we get fined in the form of additional taxes for not contributing to billionaires.
They didn’t have the votes to pass anything better, and even this the Republicans tried to undo.
Now without McCain (or some similar with some convictions), you can kiss Obamacare goodbye. And I’m 90% sure they will repeal it without a replacement.
Oh absolutely. Look what happened when McCain shot down the last effort. They didn’t go back to the drawing board and re-work it and try again. They just gave the fuck up. After spending years saying they could do better than Democrats.
They gave me affordable healthcare when I was younger (Obamacare). It isn’t always about getting exactly what you want, because you never will in politics. It’s about scraping and clawing and fighting to get anything, at all. And in my lifetime I’ve gotten WAY more out of Democrats than Republicans. Respect where respect is due. It took a monumental effort for Obama to get that shit done.
Baby steps to universal healthcare.
But we just lost dozens of baby steps by electing Republicans. Good job voters.
And our homes, meaning our family members also become homeless
organize, unionize, the second best time is now
There’s a reason every American was raised on the mantra of “violence is never the answer” and “if you fight back you’re just as bad.”
Peaceful protest against tyrannical governments only work if they’re seen as an opening offer backed by the potential for non-peaceful escalation.
Too bad one party decided that guns were bad and spent the last 50 years disarming itself.
First of all, “one party” simply asked for regulation instead of bending over for the NRA without it even reaching around to return the courtesy. Second, there is a reason why lone gunmen shoot up schools and not military bases.
The NRA, which has been proven to be fu ded by Russia.
What are you gonna do when the government comes after you with your scrawny ass weapon? It’ll work against a neighbor, sure, but the military can see through your walls using wifi alone. There’s a literal helicopter above your house tracking your every move. They know more about you than you realize. This is the strongest army in the world we’re talking about.
And, even if violence sounds tempting, there are so many things to do before any of that, like resist and organize. You can definitely fight back in man other ways besides a picket sign and a gun. I’m not sure why those are the only two options.
You don’t get in a tank fight with a pistol. Pick your battles.
United Healthcare just lost 80 billion in value when some rando took out its CEO.
The same thing al quaeda did in Afghanistan I presume
No way that would work here. We have like, grass and stuff. The sand helps to… slow them down or something…
It’s not that funny but I’m poking at the anti 2A people who always ask what you plan to do with your rifle against an apache helicopter. There’s good examples to point to as you noted, but I’m more interested in the obvious counter point, which is what are you going to do to that apache without a gun? I never hear an answer to that one. Obviously nobody on the ground is going to be having a good time in that situation but at the end of the day I’d rather be taking shots at it than throwing rocks or just lying face down and hoping they miss me.
resisting and organizing are necessary steps.
Do you really think they’ll be effective against the man that will happily mow down the people resisting?
When one side is ready to use violence and the other side is not, the other side always loses.
We’re still monkeys with sticks over here.
Is he mowing people down? He’s purging and people are resisting, as they should. And despite that the only threat has been towards us foreigners. You have more to worry about your fellow bleeding heart patriots. Arm yourselves against those first if you must.
Let’s let this post sit here and we’ll see who rusts first
Alright, fine by me.
This is such a crazy assertion. I know plenty of democrats who own guns. They just generally don’t make it their personality.
It also ignores the massive arms difference between a government of today and its citizens vs when the constitution was written.
Lots of change has happened in the US as the result of protests that go violent, but none have ever succeeded using guns.
The point of the second amendment isn’t to go toe-to-toe with the military and never has been. It’s to make every citizen a potential threat to those in power, and to allow for guerilla warfare.
A pistol can’t beat a tank, but it can kill a politician or general if it’s weilded by the right random person at the right time and location.
True. The original point was for ordinary citizens to return escaped slaves at gunpoint.
https://www.npr.org/2021/06/02/1002107670/historian-uncovers-the-racist-roots-of-the-2nd-amendment
Americans can vote, and a majority of them voted for this a short few months ago. This is exactly what he said he would do. This is what he did the previous 4 years he was in power. Americans want this. They don’t even have the excuse of popular vote this time around. They fully committed to this.
thinking that voting is the only necessary political action is how you all boiled the frog
I’m not fighting in a violent revolution against an insane retarded fascist controlling the most powerful military on earth because some people explicitly chose to not prevent the fascist from taking office out of their sense of virtue pearl clutching.
I’m not fighting in a fucking violent revolution against an insane retarded fascist controlling the most powerful military on earth because some people explicitly chose to not prevent the fascist from taking office out of their desire to pressure me to fight in a fucking revolution (left accelerationists), I hope they have fun getting shot/tortured by fascists.
I owe both of these groups nothing. I did not choose to be born and I did not choose their revolution, I’m out. I hope they’re happy with the shitty world they’ve enabled.
Violent revolution isn’t option 2 but it might very well be necessary, and I don’t blame you for wanting no part of it but we’ll all be thankful if it happens. People have had to make tough choices in the face of fascism and evil throughout history and it’s only thanks to them that those things have been rebuffed in the past.
Yup.
As an American I can confirm that Americans are fucking stupid.
Hope you’re comfortable with us having the most powerful military to ever exist. I’m certainly not.
49% of voters, about a 3rd of eligible voters
49.8% (so rounding it would be 50%) and 3 million people more than in 2020. And a whole a while 14 million more than in 2016. Eligible voters who didn’t vote made an explicit choice and are equally complicit.
They had a choice of a dumbass and literal criminal and a prosecutor and they made their choice.
All the 2A nutjobs who have been waiting their entire lives for this turned into fucking crickets.
The nutjobs still think he’s on their side, unfortunately.
If only there was an amendment for that very situation…