• Akasazh@feddit.nl
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    Stalin believed he was a communist. Some people even but into that today. He actually wrote a lot to have communism fit his particular brand of authoritarianism.

    Putin is more nihilistic. He believes that he can recreate tsar Peters’ Russia. Or so I think, he doesn’t really publicize his ideas.

    Of course calling each other Nazi is absurd. Why not Putinist? Why did evil today need bear the name of what evil was ninety years ago? Call them murderers racists, kidnappers. Why do we feel we need the term Nazi?

    Look if they all start wearing SS uniforms, singing the Horst Wessel song, start obscure groups of Germanic mythology and read mein Kampf, then you can call them Nazi. This is an evil that needs a new name.

    Because otherwise the other side will always point at the Ukrainians that did help the Nazis and say ‘you did that too!’ And that’s a useless discussion.

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      You confuse symbolism in your political opponents with actual conduct that mirrors the horrors of Nazi Germany by the Russian government under the dictator, Putin. The symbolism is used for a slippery slope argument to the very horrors we see Russia committing today.

      This is why you’re deluded. See: Korzybski. “Science and Sanity,” or his commonly used phrase, “the map is not the territory”.

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        The symbolism is used for a slippery slope argument to the very horrors we see Russia committing today.

        That’s exactly what I say.

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          The leadership of Ukraine is not Nazi or totalitarian. Russia under Purin and China under Xi Jinping is totalitarian.

          You make a fundamental category error.

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            Noi don’t. I didn’t call the leadership of the Ukraine totalitarian, you are obviously misreading me.

            All in saying that it’s unhelpful to call either side Nazi.

            I’m up for calling the Russian regime all the other names (authoritarian, totalist). If you listen to Zelenski, he doesn’t call the Russians Nazis, why? Because you get stuck in historical rethoric.

            Just call them Russians. That should become the new bad guy word. Read back what I said, and you’ll see.