President Trump strongly criticized Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky after a tense argument in the Oval Office on Friday. Trump accused Zelensky of showing disrespect toward the United States…
You’re being too pessimistic. Alliances have always been about being strange bedfellows that’ll stab each other in the back should the proper conditions ever be met.
No matter how kissy-kissy politicians may be in front of a camera, backroom dealing is still the norm. Only the orange guy mistook the backroom with a toilet and so it stinks of shit for everyone to see.
Whatever the end result of this, whoever’s left afterwards will get back to tender intimacies without a hitch.
Yup. Politics are ugly. Always have been, hopefully won’t always be as well.
We generally don’t see the ugliness, but right now it’s fully exposed.
The recoil from seeing it happen might be hard to swallow, but that doesn’t make it any worse than it usually is when hidden.
But we can also see the strength of having to go through that and still walk away.
Now I’m hoping the next period of time won’t prove me wrong and this moment will be an important impetus for change towards the better.
If I am proven wrong though, I’ll join your pessimism.
This isn’t just bad politics. We’ve publicly threatened invasion and annexation of our closest allies.
Trump irreparably compromised our national security by doing this. We rely heavily on our alliances and soft power for counterterrorism, military and counterintelligence operations. Before Trump, we were leading the most powerful network of defense alliances in the world. In one month Trump pissed that away, and made us a much weaker country.
You’re seeing the US through a colored lens. It started losing its stride a couple of presidencies before Trump. Had the opportunity to make a comeback in several ways, yet shat on each and every one.
Trump’s just the biggest visible zit on the US. Every other zit pushing him into prominence were something no one tried to clean before they got infected with pus.
It’s all ugly and something that’s been brewing for a long time.
This ain’t no one man show. The “treason” is just an inner conflict that was left untreated for a long, long time. The US needs to start healing itself, pronto.
Trump is only the symptom. I’ve seen the Republicans walk into this direction more and more every cycle. Bush, Dubya, ahh then I remember Palin who didn’t win with her Tea Party chums etc. - it culminated in Maga.
And even if Trump turns dead by suffocation, having his head up Putin’ s ass tomorrow - he’s only the most visible figure of this theater, and there a few more who probably wait to be King when the King is dead.
Nevertheless, what the post before said is important - the US was a soft power, being in the center of a huge balanced. network of allies. That network, the one the Magas shat on, is what guaranteed stability for all. (And yes, I’m aware politics always was a dirty business - but not in this way)
There were probably a lot of shouting matches between politicians in the past, probably even between presidents. But fucking never on live TV, now none of they can’t move without losing face. What a sharade.
You’re being too pessimistic. Alliances have always been about being strange bedfellows that’ll stab each other in the back should the proper conditions ever be met.
No matter how kissy-kissy politicians may be in front of a camera, backroom dealing is still the norm. Only the orange guy mistook the backroom with a toilet and so it stinks of shit for everyone to see.
Whatever the end result of this, whoever’s left afterwards will get back to tender intimacies without a hitch.
Is this take supposed to be less pessimistic?
Yup. Politics are ugly. Always have been, hopefully won’t always be as well. We generally don’t see the ugliness, but right now it’s fully exposed. The recoil from seeing it happen might be hard to swallow, but that doesn’t make it any worse than it usually is when hidden. But we can also see the strength of having to go through that and still walk away.
Now I’m hoping the next period of time won’t prove me wrong and this moment will be an important impetus for change towards the better.
If I am proven wrong though, I’ll join your pessimism.
This isn’t just bad politics. We’ve publicly threatened invasion and annexation of our closest allies.
Trump irreparably compromised our national security by doing this. We rely heavily on our alliances and soft power for counterterrorism, military and counterintelligence operations. Before Trump, we were leading the most powerful network of defense alliances in the world. In one month Trump pissed that away, and made us a much weaker country.
What we’re seeing here is full on treason.
You’re seeing the US through a colored lens. It started losing its stride a couple of presidencies before Trump. Had the opportunity to make a comeback in several ways, yet shat on each and every one.
Trump’s just the biggest visible zit on the US. Every other zit pushing him into prominence were something no one tried to clean before they got infected with pus. It’s all ugly and something that’s been brewing for a long time.
This ain’t no one man show. The “treason” is just an inner conflict that was left untreated for a long, long time. The US needs to start healing itself, pronto.
Trump is only the symptom. I’ve seen the Republicans walk into this direction more and more every cycle. Bush, Dubya, ahh then I remember Palin who didn’t win with her Tea Party chums etc. - it culminated in Maga.
And even if Trump turns dead by suffocation, having his head up Putin’ s ass tomorrow - he’s only the most visible figure of this theater, and there a few more who probably wait to be King when the King is dead.
Nevertheless, what the post before said is important - the US was a soft power, being in the center of a huge balanced. network of allies. That network, the one the Magas shat on, is what guaranteed stability for all. (And yes, I’m aware politics always was a dirty business - but not in this way)
There were probably a lot of shouting matches between politicians in the past, probably even between presidents. But fucking never on live TV, now none of they can’t move without losing face. What a sharade.
What an absurd viewpoint