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  • twisted28@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Only one group has thousands of people astroturfing on their behalf which would skew organic support

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      1 year ago

      That’s a foolish assumption. Plenty of countries have strong reasons to weaken Israel, and plenty of other countries have strong reasons to support them.

      Russia and China are spreading as much propaganda about this as the the US and its allies, guaranteed.

      • ☭ Comrade Pup Ivy 🇨🇺@lemmygrad.ml
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        1 year ago

        Do you have LITERALY any proof for this or is this baseless assumption. I can tell you the PRC through there statements and actions are being PAINFULLY middle of the road in there efforts to remain nutral in the middle east, and I am sorry but russia is no supper power, and it also, as you may or may not know has bigger things to worry about than trying to propogandize over a war over opressed people who have been subjected to a genocide striking out.

        Need I remind you the language that Isn’treal is using in relation to the Palistinians, or what they have done for the past decades. No only one side is mobilizing an astroturffed army, and it sure as hell is not the palistinan side.

        FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA, PALISTINE SHALL BE FREE

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          A lemmygrad user condemning Israel for genocide is the purest form of hypocrisy I’ve ever seen. Make up your fucking mind.

          • ☭ Comrade Pup Ivy 🇨🇺@lemmygrad.ml
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            Do you mind clarifying at all, I mean I can make up my mind. Capitalism=bad Genocide=bad Opression in any form=bad, shall I contenue. I really live my life by a simple idea, anyone who trembles with indignation at every injustice is a comrade of mine. What Isntreal does is an injustice, and so I am opposed to it.

            I might not be perfectly logically consistent, however atleast in this, and in thinking genocide is bad, I have been.

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              Capitalism=bad Genocide=bad Opression in any form=bad

              Unless Russia or China do it. You left that part out.

              • ☭ Comrade Pup Ivy 🇨🇺@lemmygrad.ml
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                Modern day Russia is no commrade of mine, they are typical post soviet capitalist shills, so yes in that respect Russia is bad. Russia is also bad in there repression of the LGBT community, and you will not hear me or a comrade of mine disagree with this. However I am unaware of any genocide they are carrying out, if you could please point me to one I would be happy to share in my shaming of the Russian Federation and their genocide. I do want to point out the ongoing genocide Ukraine has carried out on the ethnically russians in the east, Ukrainian opression of minorities of any stripe and the LGBT community, as with political parties left of Facism.

                As with China, I do not like the Republic of China and am willing to state so publicly at any opertunity presented to me. As for the Peoples Republic of China, While I will not say they are perfect, and if I felt you where willing to engage in a good faith discussion and not just quippy quote grabs, I would be more than happy to talk to you about my thoughts on the PRC. That being said they are Communist so I am not going to yell at them for that, do not engage in opression, (before you reply to this please follow your evidence chain and make sure it does not end at Radio Free Asia or any other CIA puppet) and same for genocide, they do not engage in genocide, Before you bring up the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, an audit by majority islamic nations said that no genocide had happened, and all evidence that does say that ends with RFA or another CIA puppet. Before you bring up that China is a one party state, it is not it has 8 parties the CPC wins a super majority in free and fair elections done by the law of the PRC. I mean it is truly interesting to read about, and agian I would be more than happy to talk to you about it

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                  Abducting thousands of Ukrainian children, indoctrinating them with propaganda, and forcing them to live as Russian citizens is genocide.

                  Performing forced sterilizations on Uyghurs is genocide.

                  Thanks for demonstrating what I said, though. It’s clear you don’t see any problem with those things.

                  • ☭ Comrade Pup Ivy 🇨🇺@lemmygrad.ml
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                    If you where able to provide evidence on this I would, however everything about the Uyghurs has been traced back to RFA with no other evidence, and This is genuinly the first time I am hereing about the kidnapping of Ukrainian Children and I would love a source so I could read more on it.