I mean, it is REAL fucked but those patients are already dead for all intents and purposes.
Gaza is under siege with supplies cut off. I personally think that is horrifically barbaric but i also understand that Hamas will have first dibs on any resources (similar to the issue with Afghanistan). That is not going to change so…
But also, even if power and water weren’t cut off? Hamas has made it abundantly clear they will use human shields, Palestinian or Israeli, to protect themselves. And the IDF has made it clear they will bomb Hamas anyway at this point.
So it is only a matter of time until those patients, who won’t be released, die in the crossfire.
Which is the true nature of guerilla warfare. You either ignore your targets any time they touch home base. Or you murder a bunch of civilians, make martyrs, and ensure that two more soldiers will take up arms for every one you kill.
Both of which will lead to more attacks and more “Why was nothing done to prevent this” accusations and even more “We aren’t saying you should kill those civilians. But you should definitely kill those terrorists and we are going to look the other way while we wring our hands” to perpetuate the cycle.
You know though. I can see this but there is also the bombing. I feel like both of these at the same time is a rock and hard place. If they just did the cutoff at least civilians might be able to refugee someplace.
Again, if there is a known safe haven, guerilla fighters will use it. This has come up with every major terrorist group. If they spent all their time in giant compounds out in the field, those fields would be craters.
That isn’t to say the IDF haven’t used this as excuses to attack aid organizations and journalists in the past. But there is also a lot of truth to the idea that you might have reporters on the tenth floor and a terrorist meeting on the fifth.
But also? Just the cutoff will kill those patients. You need power for medical equipment. You need running water (or power) to wash your hands. And you need medical supplies. I THINK aid organizations have found ways to get the last part in, but it is still bleak.
I am not sure whether more or fewer civilians will die in the evacuation over the war itself. I am hoping fewer but… But those patients aren’t going to be released and already are more or less dead unless the siege is lifted.
Not the person you’re responding to but the second one. They will push into the north, then likely keep going. The writing is on the wall, they will eradicate Hamas and while doing so all of Gaza because Hamas hides amongst civilians. They know Hamas may go south as well while telling everyone else to remain where they are. It may even be part of their plan. They will commit atrocity in the name of peace, and Hamas will revel in it and commit more of their own atrocities as well.
I mean, it is REAL fucked but those patients are already dead for all intents and purposes.
Gaza is under siege with supplies cut off. I personally think that is horrifically barbaric but i also understand that Hamas will have first dibs on any resources (similar to the issue with Afghanistan). That is not going to change so…
But also, even if power and water weren’t cut off? Hamas has made it abundantly clear they will use human shields, Palestinian or Israeli, to protect themselves. And the IDF has made it clear they will bomb Hamas anyway at this point.
So it is only a matter of time until those patients, who won’t be released, die in the crossfire.
Which is the true nature of guerilla warfare. You either ignore your targets any time they touch home base. Or you murder a bunch of civilians, make martyrs, and ensure that two more soldiers will take up arms for every one you kill.
Both of which will lead to more attacks and more “Why was nothing done to prevent this” accusations and even more “We aren’t saying you should kill those civilians. But you should definitely kill those terrorists and we are going to look the other way while we wring our hands” to perpetuate the cycle.
You know though. I can see this but there is also the bombing. I feel like both of these at the same time is a rock and hard place. If they just did the cutoff at least civilians might be able to refugee someplace.
Again, if there is a known safe haven, guerilla fighters will use it. This has come up with every major terrorist group. If they spent all their time in giant compounds out in the field, those fields would be craters.
That isn’t to say the IDF haven’t used this as excuses to attack aid organizations and journalists in the past. But there is also a lot of truth to the idea that you might have reporters on the tenth floor and a terrorist meeting on the fifth.
But also? Just the cutoff will kill those patients. You need power for medical equipment. You need running water (or power) to wash your hands. And you need medical supplies. I THINK aid organizations have found ways to get the last part in, but it is still bleak.
I am not sure whether more or fewer civilians will die in the evacuation over the war itself. I am hoping fewer but… But those patients aren’t going to be released and already are more or less dead unless the siege is lifted.
So…
Are you saying the IDF are idiots for thinking Hamas will stay in the north?
Or are you saying it’s obvious bullshit that IDF will leave the South alone if the north actually does evacuate?
Not the person you’re responding to but the second one. They will push into the north, then likely keep going. The writing is on the wall, they will eradicate Hamas and while doing so all of Gaza because Hamas hides amongst civilians. They know Hamas may go south as well while telling everyone else to remain where they are. It may even be part of their plan. They will commit atrocity in the name of peace, and Hamas will revel in it and commit more of their own atrocities as well.