A creole is what happens when several groups with different native languages are put together and have to communicate. If you have people speaking the same native language in isolation you will eventually get a distinct dialect of the parent language, not a creole.
I thought that was pidgen so I looked it up if anyone is curious:
What is the difference between pidgin and creole? In a nutshell, pidgins are learned as a second language in order to facilitate communication, while creoles are spoken as first languages. Creoles have more extensive vocabularies than pidgin languages and more complex grammatical structures.
The Belters were subjugated, but not isolated. This is shown with a lot of the “security forces” largely being Earth/Mars based but also just general trade. Much like with the very large physiological differences (mostly in the books and season 1 of the show), ~100 years (since the Epstein Drive was invented 129 years before the protomolecule) just isn’t really enough for that kind of divergence.
The “oriental fetishism” of Firefly/Serenity is a lot more likely with mostly being a hybrid of different languages based on who the original colonists were… and that was a much larger period of time with even more isolation which is just funny.
Also, this ignores regular communication and media sharing between The Belt and The Inner Planets. Like, there have been some interesting studies that point out how pervasive “california english” is becoming because of “hollywood” (which films everything in Toronto). So even the Belters who more or less live in a mine their entire life would likely still watch documentaries from Oliver Queen’s baby mama and whoever Mars’s equivalent of Kim Kardashian is.
The Expanse is quite good in this regard, they invented a whole Creole for the belters in the show.
A Creole is exactly what happen when people talk a language in isolation for several decades.
A creole is what happens when several groups with different native languages are put together and have to communicate. If you have people speaking the same native language in isolation you will eventually get a distinct dialect of the parent language, not a creole.
I thought that was pidgen so I looked it up if anyone is curious:
You are right. I did not knew the difference but it make even more sense this way.
It doesn’t actually make sense given the setting.
The Belters were subjugated, but not isolated. This is shown with a lot of the “security forces” largely being Earth/Mars based but also just general trade. Much like with the very large physiological differences (mostly in the books and season 1 of the show), ~100 years (since the Epstein Drive was invented 129 years before the protomolecule) just isn’t really enough for that kind of divergence.
The “oriental fetishism” of Firefly/Serenity is a lot more likely with mostly being a hybrid of different languages based on who the original colonists were… and that was a much larger period of time with even more isolation which is just funny.
Also, this ignores regular communication and media sharing between The Belt and The Inner Planets. Like, there have been some interesting studies that point out how pervasive “california english” is becoming because of “hollywood” (which films everything in Toronto). So even the Belters who more or less live in a mine their entire life would likely still watch documentaries from Oliver Queen’s baby mama and whoever Mars’s equivalent of Kim Kardashian is.