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You won’t be able to use the bankid when your previous phone is broken, though. That’s my point.

Lol did you even read the article

Yes. This whole sub-thread is about when your old phone is broken. You’re not being trolled, you didn’t read properly.

No. Once every few years. However, the gap in service is absolute disaster in modern society. Without a phone, you can’t use public transport, can’t pay for parking, can’t get a taxi/uber/competitor, etc. etc.

Any “progress” that makes the turnaround time longer when your phone breaks is a horrible and unacceptable downside.

download it via their app

On the phone that isn’t connecting to the internet, because it doen’t have a SIM yet? Or do eSIM phones use free internet before they have an eSIM issued?

Literally anything you’d want to do with a physical SIM you can do with an eSIM.

No. There is no reason for you to blatantly LIE. It is NOT possible for the consumer to switch to using a borrowed or backup handset, when there is no physical token. How on earth do you think that contradicting actual reality is an argument?

The fact that carriers have poor security today isn’t an argument for discontinuing the part of the system that still allows the consumer to be in control. It’s an argument against it.

What prevents someone else from doing that at any point, taking over my number? Is the only authentication a simple login to the mobile provider’s website?

Why Buy Anything Else?

It seems to be the size of an air craft carrier.

That’s your problem as a consumer accepting that. This thread makes me depressed, with the amount of people happy to allow shitty US consumer hostile practices to become more common globally.

Keeping my number. Are you saying that I can immediately, online, get my existing number connected to a different handset? If I can’t, then that’s why I want to transfer the physical SIM.

Exactly. What a shitty anti-feature. Your answer proves that the people saying that “eSIMs are functionally the same as normal SIM” are full of absolute shit.

I don’t want a “new sim”, I want my old one, which doesn’t exist anymore since it was virtual and only existed in my now broken previous phone. How does it work in that situation?

The major function of a normal SIM is the ability to take it out of one device and put it into another one, effectively disconnecting my identity towards the network provider, from the handset. With eSIM, that doesn’t exist, and if my phone breaks, it’s unclear what happens.

To me, that’s not secure, that’s unsafe and insecure.

I wish “social media drama” would be somewhere else than “technology”. There is nothing in this story related to technology, it’s about business, people, and politics.

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No. I advocated for people that imbeciles call nazis to not be excluded from society. There is a significant difference, but if you live inside a bubble, like some fediverse serverse, you might be so brain washed that you think everybody who thinks a little bit different from you is a nazi. They’re not.

Grow up. It is not possible for you to hide from the real world. The suppression of opinion in the fediverse is real. You admit so yourself two comments above. You call them nazis and evil, which is childish and unproductive. Have you considered communicating with those with different opinions instead of attempting to ban them from participation in society?

trusted to act in good faith

You are not acting in good faith when you are arguing that your members should be blocked from communicating with anybody on Meta servers, because of guilt by association. What you don’t allow on your particular instances has great bearing, because it shows that you are no different from them, other than in which opinions you consider to be worthy of suppressing.

I am not claiming that there’s no censorship in the fediverse. I’m claiming that there is censorship, meaning that the fact that Meta also uses censorship is no argument against them. You censor people you call nazis, they censor people who think three generations of occupation in Palestine is a bad thing. Both have problems. This piece of news about Meta censorship is not an argument against federation.

Because we are not censorship happy pieces of shit. We judge every statement for what it is, rather than applying guilt by association in three steps.

Most people who want to block Meta from the fediverse want to do it because they want to block people’s opinions and statements from reaching them. They want the fediverse to be a “safe space” (a term which thankfully has lost most of its momentum in the last few years) where no dissenting or nuanced opinion is welcome. Somehow you’re trying to turn Meta’s similar behavior into an argument against them, even though it’s an example of both organizations doing similar things (prohibiting unwanted opinions).