Oh cool, if you want to be educated, well then reread this conversation from the beginning where I try to have the conversation you refuse to have. Then when you get to here and haven’t changed start over and reread the conversation from the beginning. And when you get to here and pretend to care again start from the beginning where I tried to have this conversation.

No you just like to say stuff and don’t listen to others. So yes I’m sure these all sound like insults.

Oh to have your free time and ignorance.

you sure seemed like you didn’t want me talking about what I was talking about

And still playing the victim while ignoring that none of what happens in your head is what is happening in real life and I have participated in the conversation the whole time.

I think you are wrong to talk the way you do. And assume things that are self affirming than being honest with reality.

You literally are still using sarcasm and avoidance as a shield and haven’t met the conversation once but used the feeling of being right to be your moral compass.

Yeah I would still call you a narcissist.

Also, for someone who complains about people being silenced, you sure want me to shut up.

By quoting you?

Are you a troll or that sheltered that you are able to alter every interaction in your head to make yourself the only good person?

Some would call that narcissistic behaviour or borderline personality disorder.

You acted like the victim by saying I wanted you to shut up when that wasn’t said by me and now are doubling down on the victim for being told something you don’t like. I really don’t care.

Alright last comment cause I got stuff to do. But you literally just said you don’t agree that not voting for Trump is the same then said it’s practically the same. In literally the next sentence.

Just because someone isn’t voting for your desired candidate or your opposition doesn’t mean they are supporting the one you have issue with. It literally doesn’t work that way. They might not be helping you but somehow it only impacts one side? Cause there isn’t a net positive for it anymore? That doesn’t equal a positive for the other just literally a neutral “wasted” vote because sure it is.

If you can drive a car and not support climate change than this can be true as well. Attaching a moral equivalence to measure people against for a desired outcome is just you telling people they don’t matter and are “other” for not being with you. You aren’t say8ng what will happen cause if someone votes third party… They vote third party. That’s it. You just don’t like it so you push that it equates to something you see as worse.

Step on a crack and you will break your mother’s back and you must hate your mother cause you never avoid the cracks.

Pushing fake math to appease your own mind is not exactly great. And you can lament them not helping but saying they are doing something you view as immoral because you view it a negative as a positive for the enemy is creating a wedge that doesn’t need to exist.

Seconded

Says something inflammatory and false meant to bully people

“Hey that sure sounds like unproductive bullying”

Wow, looks like someone sure is trying to bully me.

OK cool whatever. But you are totally being reasonable and pedantic now so nothing you have done or said before matters. Got it.

Yeah, that’s how the world works. I don’t think people who don’t vote in line with the Democratic Party care about not being in the same good graces to be considered one of them.

But pushing the false equivalence that somehow not voting for Trump is the same as directly voting for him is foolish and not a good tactic to swing them into voting with the party.

These are anti authoritarian people. As in literally don’t like being told what to do. And you can’t fix a negative with a negative. People need to feel inspired themselves to do the right things. Otherwise people are shockingly self destructive and will cut off their nose to spite the fact.

You are free to bully people that will say they voting a way you don’t like too but don’t think it will be productive is my point.

Voting for any other “not Trump” actually helps Trump. You might as well just not vote.

Just because you put on a veneer of post indifference doesn’t make reality any different.

Telling people that if they don’t vote with you they shouldn’t vote at all is pretty telling of who you are and what you want. You said it above and you barely have changed your stance to hide your disdain.

And now you saying people can only other vote for Trump since he’s the other representative of a deeply problematic 2 party system?

If people want to voice their displeasure but not necessarily achieve something, I’m not yelling at people that they are worth less than nothing when they do it. And I definitely don’t want to push the idea that Republicans have to only vote Trump because it’s his party.

Well only true if they weren’t a Trump supporter voting 3rd party.

People walking out of his rallies and falling asleep at them does not help Trump.

I get that Harris is the only person with the current backing up there to win properly against him this election but if you literally take a look at your math there and say someone that votes third party would be better by not voting at all you are just trying to silence people that disagree with you rather than let them have any voice.

Voting for third party when they wouldn’t have voted at all is not the same as helping Trump and you need to stop being so scared of Trump you keep bullying those that would with that false equivalent.

Not them but I think the answer is very obviously “not Trump”.
Everyone should vote for “Not Trump” and it seems that more people agree than not when even his own party wanted a guy with former brain parasites than him.

There is really some lamenting though that the bar is set so low and the Democrats seem to be happy to not even try to jump over it but take the win on not being Trump.

It could be an amazing strategy to run on a platform of helping and pushing change instead of telling tired people they will keep things the same.

Its obvious it needs to be “Not Trump”. But I wouldn’t expect people to be happy about voting for the equivalent of the 2000 Republican Party in spirit here in 2024 when people not wanting that anymore is how the Republicans got Trump in the first place. People are gonna get burnt out and disenfranchised on no change.
It doesn’t mean they are right to burn it all down but people commit suicide for shitty reasons too.

Nuance. Try it.

Oh I usually block the ads via a pihole and don’t even bother logging in. Tubi is great

To be fair it’s just “on” and “off” with the D to make it sexy

Oh now it’s gone. Took some time time for the rest of us but your old comments still have it.

So weird.

LOL maybe not? Still see this as a bot account too.

Woah we have got to the point of random companies creating an account to post a single ad comment on completely unrelated posts and then calling it a day?

Lemmy is going places guys.

Make your point then and make it factual? Cause so far you have said America doesn’t have immigration to fall back on which it does in spades even though I agree it looks like, and is in all practicality, slave labor.

Then said, incorrectly, Chinese immigrants worked in mines and used unrelated other slave labor immigration as whataboutisms.

The point was that America can sell the idea of itself to keep import of cheap labor high and you have wafted about without a point just yelling at people about all the things you think are wrong with the world and nitpicking, poorly, other people.

You don’t stay on topic and you basically don’t have a point other than be angry. If you have a point make it. If you want to be angry and rant then fine but be honest about it and just be angry and rant.

You get yelled at because you slip off topic to sputter out a “fact” that you think wins an argument while it being tangentially related and off topic. Your dog dying is not a good excuse for failing gym class. Yes it’s sad. But it’s not the point.

Take this as a learning moment from someone that agrees with you and won’t back down at telling you, find a different way to talk to people.

This “holier than thou” shtick where you say random factoids as a way to feel superior in a conversation ain’t doing you favors and isn’t accomplishing anything other than stroking yourself out. And it’s fine if you want to do that but do it in private. We don’t need to see you jacking off your ego.