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  • To the best of my knowledge, back-propagation IS learning, whether it’s happening in a neural-net on a chip, or whether we’re doing it, through feedback, & altering our understanding ( so both hard-logic & our wetware use the method for learning, though we use a rather sloppy implimentation of it. )

    & altering the relative-significances of concepts IS learning.

    ( I’m not commenting on whether the new-relation-between-those-concepts is wrong or right, only on the mechanism )

    so, I can’t understand your position.

    Please don’t deem my comment worthy of answering: I’m only putting this here for the record, is all.

    Everybody can downvote my comment into oblivion, & everything in the world’ll still be fine.





    1. insightful question,

    2. it isnt just the internet, in case you hadn’t noticed, it is ALL civil-rights that are being gutted, in the enshittocene.

    “once the infection has moved the ‘fulcrum’, the balance between the involuntary-host & the infection, far enough, it can then switch from symbiosis to totalitarian rampaging growth-at-any-cost, excluding-all-vital-functions, enforcing its parasitic & fatal consumption, killing the patient”

    A tipping-point is being crossed, though it’s taking a few decades ( planets are slower than individual-animals, in experiencing infection ).

    It’s our rendition of The Great Filter, in-which we enforce that we can’t be viable, because factional-ideology “needs” that we break all viability from the world.

    Or, to be plainer, it is our race’s unconscious toddler setting-up a world-breaking tantrum, to “BREAK GOD AND MAKE GOD OBEY” its won’t-grow-up.

    Read Daniel Kahneman’s “Thinking Fast & Slow”, & see how the imprint->reaction mind, Kahneman1 ( he calls it “System 1”, but without context, that’s meaningless ) substitutes easy-to-answer questions for the actual questions…

    The more you read that book, the most important psychology book in the whole world, right now, the more obvious it is that Ideology/prejudice/assumption-river/religion/dogma is doing all it can to break considered-reasoning ( Kahneman2 ) from the whole world, and it is succeeding/winning.

    “Proletariat dictatorship” the Leninists want, “populist dictatorship” the fascists want, religious totalitarianism, political totalitarianism, ideological totalitarianism, etc, it’s all Kahneman1 fighting to break considered-reasoning from the whole world, and the “disappearing” of all comments criticizing Threads from the Threads portion of the internet … is perfectly normal.

    It’s simply highjacking of our entire civilization, by the systems which want exclusive dominion.

    Have you checked your youtube account’s settings section, in the history section, to see what percentage of your comments have been disappeared??

    Do it.

    Everybody do it.

    Discover how huge a percentage of your contribution to the “community” got disappeared, because it wasn’t what their algorithm finds usefully-sensationalistic, or usefully-pushing-whatever-they-find-acceptable.

    I spent a few hours deleting ALL my comments from there, after seeing that around 1/2 of what I’d contributed had been disappeared.

    There are a few comments now, but … they’ll be removed, either by yt or by me, soon.

    No point in pretending that meaning is tolerable, anymore, you know?

    Only fakery & hustle remains, for most of the internet, & that transformation’s going to be complete, in a few years.

    1984, but for-profit.

    Sorry for the … dim … view, but it’s been unfolding for a couple decades, & it’s getting blatent, fast.



  • My comment isn’t on your script, it is on paper-selection…

    Please have several, orthogonal, selection-systems:

    • most-cited,

    • most trustworthy researchers

    • most unique area of research, or most unique question, or something

    • most central to new tech

    • most central to old tech

    • most undernoticed, big potential… ( things that should be big news, but the global novelty-addiction ignores it )

    • best fundamental science ( definitely include this category! )

    • best citizen-science

    etc…

    iow, the algorithm that most use, which is “paying attention to what others are paying attention to” is an algorithm we shouldn’t be assigning our viability to, you know?

    Also, you may need to make a flexible-limit for dumbing-down, as some papers may have a higher limit and others a lower limit, so some could be easy for most to get the sense of, but some might be tricky … and it might well do more good to let them have their different thresholds, see?


  • it is called “establishing ownership”.

    Once their identity is consolidated that way,

    then they can enforce their certain-in-their-own-unconscious ownership of Asia, through any violence necessary.


    You can see equivalent self-dishonesty in the West, & you can see it in Modi’s delusion that Russia is going to help them against China, even through Russia is financially now a vassal-state of China…

    Once the economy guts the Democrats in the US, losing them the 2024 election, & Trump guts NATO, backs Russia & Saudi Arabia,

    what is going to protect Asia from China’s smashing it like they did Tibet?

    7 years from Trump’s coronation ( in 2025 ) is all Asia has left, it seems.


    Establishing ownership is fundamental to bullying, btw: rodents do it, sneaking into places at night, so that they feel righteous when fighting for “their” new territory during the day…

    I hadn’t understood that bullying had both a yin/molesting/violating phase & a yang/overt-bullying phase until rodents taught me how it’s done…

    The governments who push privacy-violating laws & systems, then later stomp civil-rights, they are demonstrating exactly the same Pattern.

    The religions who push for “some” control of everybody’s life, relentlessly pushing for “a little more” authority, then once a tipping-point is crossed, suddenly they can switch from yin-bullying to yang-bullying … same thing.

    It’s a really common pattern throughout human history, lately…


  • Anybody who ignores the Financial Class, and how civilization’s laws are formed in concordance with money-lobby/authority, isn’t competent to be discussing what system we are living-in.

    Capitalism without highjacking-of-the-system-of-laws is capitalism.

    Once highjacking-of-the-system-of-laws is included, it changes to moneyarchy.

    As it exists, it is a mixture of oligarchy & corporate-moneyarchy, but it definitely isn’t “just” an economic system, it is a world-governing regime.

    https://www.vox.com/2014/4/10/5601062/oil-curse-explained

    Perhaps you didn’t know that perjury is S.O.P. for tobacco companies, but, of course, prison-time for contempt-of-court can’t happen on a corporation, only on us…

    Go look up The Panama Papers, & see if moneyarchy isn’t the correct term for what the evidence shows to be actuality…

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers

    Moneyarchy is the correct & proper term.

    As for socialism, whose concept of socialism are you claiming competes against moneyarchy?

    Sweden’s seems insane: EVERYbody pays huge taxes AND gets welfare…

    Don’t they understand that the more “recycling” of money per unit of result, the more lossy their economy becomes, the higher the “friction” or “viscosity” ( pick your metaphor ), and the smaller the percentage of their effort that actually produces results??

    Which Socialism?

    • codependency
    • interdependency
    • ideology-centered
    • practicality-centered
    • things I haven’t thought-of go here…

    I’ve never seen a governmental version of Socialism that wasn’t the codependency-version or the ideology-religion one.

    Meritocracy & Socialism … what is in the intersection between those, on the Venn diagram? Nothing?

    “you can’t have any meritocracy with socialism” seems to be the belief, among many, but Sweden’s education system seems to get meritocracy right ( unless I’m remembering another Scandi country’s version ), where they simply don’t permit any bypassing of the national meritocratic education system…

    Because of political-motivation, objectivity isn’t permitted in this world, and neither is practicality, from what I’ve seen…

    And that kind of meta-rule wrecks everything else.

    Hell, even gaslighting about “Representative” Republic being “democracy” is so normal I keep forgetting to put that back in viewable place…

    As some have noted, the ones who rule make certain that people have things other than the actual issues in-view…

    and that is 1 of the characteristics of the -archy regimes, where the population is just herd-animals, consumed by the powers that really run the world ( for-profit corporations parasitically feed-on the human-herd, manipulating humanity’s awareness to remain fed-upon, is one accurate metaphor )

    The whole narcissism/machiavellianism of orienting government to the most-successful narcissist-machiavellian, and through “elections” making certain that competency & responsibility are punished, in the “game”, by giving authority to the narcissist-machiavellian ones, preferentially…

    Reward-systems are feedback loops and have consequences…

    Try convincing … anybody … that Boris Johnson is a thorougly-responsible person…

    Highjacking of authority from responsibility and accountability … is sooo complete, now…

    How come people can’t see that?


    Anyways, I meant not national-level competing ( in a different country ), I meant:

    IF you find moneyarchy in the US to be bad, then why don’t you create an alternative-to-moneyarchy economy within the US??

    You want socialism, or barbarism, or maybe you equate the 2 ( from your phrasing I can’t know which ), so, why don’t you form socialism-competing-against-moneyarchy in the US?

    Why don’t you & all the believers-in-socialism create socialism in the US?

    Is there some law that prevents socialist businesses from existing??

    Is there some law that prevents socialist groups of businesses from existing??

    The fact that there simply doesn’t seem to be ANY such competing-economy IS EVIDENCE that either it isn’t permitted by government, or that it isn’t permitted by the moneyarchy regime, or that the socialists, themselves, aren’t competent to do it, or all 3 of them, simultaneously.

    DECADES everybody has had to be producing alternative-economies within the US, and … where are they?


    I just realized that I’m including perspective that is required, and not common.

    “Slicing Pie Handbook” is a book on startup equity-slicing.

    Without understanding how equity needs to be properly distributed, and … ah, yes, “Founder’s Dilemmas” is also required … when people who aren’t responsible gain authority, you CANNOT make the business/system/regime work… the ones who gained authority without responsibility effectively highjack the enterprise, holding it hostage to their whims/demand/extortion, and … if the contract that is in-place permits them that authority, the enterprise may need to die…

    Remap that to country, and corporations, instead of an individual company with persons, and the same highjacking happens, especially when financially-emplaced political-parties ( and, through them, their financial backers ) are the highjackers.

    Responsibilityarchy is the real requirement, but it’ll never be tolerated by any incumbent political power, left or right.

    Not responsible AND accountable? break them from authority, then.

    Have you got any idea how long that kind of idealism would be allowed to live?

    1 week, maybe?


    Socialists have the same ability to create businesses as anybody else, so why haven’t they created socialist businesses, & multiplied the things until 20% of the businesses in the US are socialist operations??

    even 5%??

    There is something fundamentally wrong with what the evidence is showing, and its showing that that apparently can’t evolve…


  • The models/simulations are falsified by the evidence:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/08/antarctica-warming-much-faster-than-models-predicted-in-deeply-concerning-sign-for-sea-levels

    Notice that that darkens the planet’s albedo, accelerating the progression of ClimatePunctuation/GlobalWarming…

    and that the models/simulations contradict the evidence, saying that what happened wouldn’t happen.

    The real & correct prediction is that we have already put 5-6C global-warming’s worth of CO2 into the atmosphere, AND we have also added other greenhouse gasses, like methane, & sulfur-hexafluoride.

    Here is the robust fact:

    https://www.nature.com/articles/nature19798

    The powerlaw they discovered that governs the interglacial temperatures is this:

    280ppm is a good pre-industrial CO2 measure.

    • 280ppm * (9th-root-of-2) == +1C
    • 280ppm * (9th-root-of-2)^2 == +2C
    • 280ppm * (9th-root-of-2)^3 == +3C
    • 280ppm * (9th-root-of-2)^4 == +4C
    • 280ppm * (9th-root-of-2)^5 == +5C ( we are at 421, which is above this )
    • 280ppm * (9th-root-of-2)^6 == +6C
    • 280ppm * (9th-root-of-2)^7 == +7C
    • 280ppm * (9th-root-of-2)^8 == +8C
    • 280ppm * (9th-root-of-2)^9 == +9C ( aka 280ppm * 2 == +9C )

    At that point, the CO2 level has been doubled.

    CO2 acts like the Gate in a bipolar transistor: the tiny current you put into the gate, the HUGE current flows through the Source-Drain part of the transistor.

    Increase the CO2, & that increases the moisture in the atmosphere, which MASSIVELY increases the amount of retained solar heat.

    Pretending that +2C is attainable, now, is delusional.

    I’m no longer certain that there will be ANY life around the equator, in 1 century, at or near the surface.


  • Learned-helplessness produces both Nihilism & Sadism.

    The Russian soldiers’ habit of making torture-chambers everywhere proves this.

    Russian culture’s “fate regime” concept of relationship also proves this ( it proves the learned-helplessness aspect of it ).

    ( apparently that article explaining how in Russia, people entirely accept that fate, and nothing else, decides who marries who, is now … gone??

    Neither DuckDuckGO nor google have it… )

    Deterrent requires that both parties have aversion to destruction.

    However, when 1 party has become nihilist, then they can assault the other as a means of baiting the other into sadistic-aggression, in order that all the neighbours commit to annihilating the one who was successfully baited into demonstrating genocidal sadism.

    Israel won’t exist, in 10 years, no matter what, now.

    NOTHING can make the Arab world accommodate its life, now.

    Nothing.

    The Christian Bible’s Matthew 24 had a prophecy that is about to become historical-fact, in the coming decade.

    Here’s a decent version of it:

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matt+24&version=AMPC

    That bit around verses 15-20 is the pertinent area.

    Simply wait 1 decade, and see: if Israel still exists, as a country, in 2033, I’ll eat a hat.

    And it was entirely preventable, had there been enough committment to having neutral authorities in West Bank ( UN ), and NO political-dishonesty OR nationalist bullying permitted from either side…

    Needless, politically-enforced & needless…

    : \




  • I’ve become of 2 minds about leather footwear & gloves:

    The primary alternative to leather is plastic, which, when it breaks-down, sabotages the food-web, right?

    Leather doesn’t do that.

    I honestly don’t know what The Right Answer™ is, on that one, anymore.

    I’m usually vegan, btw, not for ideological/religious reasons, but simply because doing otherwise blocks my ability to reach the meditations I need.

    I do find butchering animal lives for a mere few-meals unethical, but refugee Buddhist monk Kelsang Gyatso pointed-out in one of his books, IF a person has anemia, THEN the right antidote is eating red meat.

    He’s ordained, a Geshe, and he is recommending that right in his dharma.

    Years-enduring clothing is a much less desolating consumption than needless meat-eating.

    Exactly as that brilliant psychological truth in the Christian bible shows, naive truth, aka symbolic “truth”, is syrupy-sweet in one’s face/mouth, whereas digested & real, experience-induced-understanding Truth, is bitter.

    See for yourself:

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation 10%3A8-10&version=CJB


  • There is an error that many in the dispute are making…

    Imagine that BORG-AI is an ai that was trained ONLY on GPL2 program-code…

    Imagine that you use it to fill-in some functions in your codebase…

    What sort of copyright-status should be on those??

    I say they should be GPL2, and they should be considered derivative of the ENTIRE training-data-set.

    That doesn’t mean I think that the BORG-AI should be a copyright holder, though!

    I’m saying that there should be a NEW category, between uncopyrighted & copyrighted, and that the training-sets need to be segregated by license, so that derivatives CAN know what their legal licensing-status is.

    GPL2, GPL3, BSD, LGPL2, whatever… it needs to be consistent within the training-data-set, so that the derivative of THAT module/expert can be having the same license, see?