I don’t think I would ever mistake you for a capitalist

It’s okay that you’ll lose your house, because there are people without houses.

Perfect retarded communist point of view. Let’s just make everyone poor, then we can just change the definition of what poor is

That’s great, have a look at what those things should cost and then look at how the government is mismanaging their funding that we give them

Why even bother with wages, just have the corporations pay the government directly for our work. The government can figure out how to distribute everything and fuck us all

So what I hear you saying is that families with homes should just lose their homes because funding the government is more important? And they should have thought of that before buying a home?

Are you a fucking idiot?

Let’s just make MORE poverty stricken people, the government comes before all! It sounds like you just want everyone to hand over their pay cheques to the government so they can decide who gets what and when they get it, so we can all be totally fucked.

This Lemmy crowd is filled with morons.

Children don’t know anything yet. They haven’t lived enough to know anything yet. Because they’re children.

Wait until you’re grown up, you’ll understand that we shouldn’t listen to teenagers about how the world should work.

You have to understand how expensive it is supporting a family right now. People are spending an insane amount of money on groceries alone. $1,000 - $1,800 a month

The gas to get to work for a two income household could be upwards of $1,000 a month.

Mortgage renewal? Hope you have an extra $700 a month laying around.

Cad payments? Ya that’s going to add another $200-$300 a month in interest payments alone now.

And forget it if you have kids. Daycare, physical activities, summer camp? Maybe another $12k per year depending on how many kids you have!

The issue here is that the middle class are also being destroyed and without them there’s no money to even give to the government to help lower income people.

In Canada, $150k a year for a family of 5 is low income now.

At least lower income people get subsidized food and housing. Middle class? They get 20% interest on credit cards to keep afloat.

This isn’t about wages, it’s about costs. All of them of which taxes are just one. A big one, but just one.

You can attack the corpo’s later, right now the fight is with the government to get the money going out under control.

You can get a 50% raise, but if you’re still spending 70% more to eat and have a roof over your head, it doesn’t really matter does it?

If shit was more affordable, maybe $40k a year could be a livable wage again. Cause right now it’s not.

Agreed 100%

I pay 30% of every dollar I make and I also pay another 18% or so every time I spend a dollar directly to the government.

And the prices of EVERYTHING has Skyrocketed!

When prices go up, the goods and services taxes you pay also go up. When prices go down, they go down too.

Interest rates are killing people, prices are killing people, taxes on top of taxes are killing people

A lot of people who pay $20-30k+ a year in taxes are also struggling.

Mortgages have gone up, milk has gone up, eggs are too expensive, a lot of countries (like Canada, where I live) are increasing carbon taxes. Gas is already $1.70 a litre!

Wages are one thing, but how many people can just swallow a mortgage payment that increase $500-$700 a month?

I get it, you want to make more money, but something the government can actually do is let you keep more of the money you do actually earn.

Maybe the government should just stop taking so much off your pay cheque

Your pay is only relevant to the cost of goods and services.

People used to be rich earning $1,000 a year. Your pay is irrelevant, the costs of things is what’s more important.

And taxes, fucking stop taking everyone’s money

Fuck employers, everything is TOO FUCKING EXPENSIVE

I don’t agree with that either

No, I love talking to you. I wish there were more people around here like you.

I appreciate this discussion. You’ve been a bright spot on lemmy for me, thank you

What kind of source do you need? Welfare was created to get people on their feet and off of welfare, not for a quasi-UBI program that it’s turned into.

If welfare was working, you’d see less and less people receiving it. That’s not what’s happening though. There are more people on welfare now than there was 50 years ago.

The war on poverty has been a failure. Time for a new approach

Why would I put more than the minimal amount of effort into any post on lemmy, knowing that 100 communist teenagers are just going to reply “lol wrong, you fascist” and downvote?

If you want to debate me, I’d rather do that in real time on another program like discord. But lemmy is just a left wing commie shithole

This lemmy app doesn’t even take me to the right part of the thread the comments are in half the time.

It’s an absolute mess.

I’m not going to convince you that throwing money at things doesn’t solve any of the problems it promises to. That’s a journey you’ll make on your own as you grow up and start realizing this as you get into adulthood

You must be hanging out in the wrong places then

Maybe I’m confusing replies, but didn’t the person I’m responding to ask ‘how did the US go wrong’?

Voting democrat, mostly