I assume embarrassment on the world stage helped move this along given the Olympics?

Hence your substantive engagement on what I did mention?

I dish back that which has been dished out.

Never claimed this.

Implied.

Never claimed this.

So you are saying Democrats and Harris would’ve been better?

None of this is about hate, it’s about which policy decisions are better than others.

And Harris had overall better policy decisions, correct?

Again, never claimed.

So you agree Harris had overall better policy decisions, correct?

Everything you’re saying comes across as being less about “how do we improve things” and more “I need someone to be angry at.” I would propose directing that anger at the politicians instead of your fellow voters.

The two notions aren’t mutually-exclusive. You see, in order to improve things, fools asserting defeatist false equivalence fallacy rhetoric need to learn from their disastrous mistakes. Because you’re the one responsible, that is making you a bit uncomfortable, I suspect.

I would propose making fewer logical fallacies next election cycle.

If I was religious I would definitely think he was the devil quoting scripture.

Compounding deflections now, I see. Was a pretty simple question, really.

If we’re going with blind attacks then I think Ivanov has hit the vodka a little too heavy today, maybe?

I love how you dodged more than half of the issues, knowing you didn’t have jack shit. Respectfully, of course.

Sounds like one is complicit in genocide with respect to both climate change and Ukraine.

(by the way: you love mamdani; if they’re all the same, why did he run as a Democrat? You should hate him too, right? So I guess they’re not all the same and Democrats are, objectively better, is that right?)

So you’re condoning genocide and dodging the fact that Democrats were objectively better for the people of Ukraine?

Classic deflection.

Because it’s irrelevant. Even entertaining collusion, your argument that we cut out the middleman and hand the keys to the GOP is unquestionably worse in every logical way.

Last I checked, Dems gave more aid to Ukraine. Are you saying you’re complicit on the Russian genocide against Ukraine?

You’re the reason we have Trump. Absurd.

Criticism of Dems, specifically false equivalence botherism, was objectively disinfo. We know Israel and Russia have troll farms that supported Republicans, and many people including yourself lapped up that rhetoric. Doesn’t matter if you’re a US citizen or not. You helped amplify the propaganda. So thanks for that.

Billions in aid to Gaza and West Bank even through 2022 prove the point regardless, but sure: https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-usaid-gaza-ceasefire-0a56d5d591c249eb5e44ba29c9adaa3e

You still didn’t answer: do you not care about all those issues?

Hahaha bystanders observe the absurdity of this claim. Talk about a non-sequitur.

I’m all for shitting on AIPAC Dems, but all this proves is that right-wing disinfo ops convinced people like you to amplify their bullshit and sway larger swaths of people. So good job parroting right-wing disinfo when you could’ve done hard work actually telling people what Harris was without question the better candidate on a multitude of issues.

Maybe less drinking right-wing kool-aid and more door-knocking.

Like I said, you willingly threw Ukrainians under the bus in this self-defeating mindset, leaving aside the other issues mentioned…

So just tell me you don’t care about:

• Climate Change (and resulting deaths)
• Healthcare
• LGBTQ+ rights (and resulting discrimination)
• Women’s bodily autonomy
• Ukraine (and Russia’s ongoing genocide in Ukraine; so are bystanders complicit in genocide there?)
• Economic Inequality
• Immigration (and resulting deportations, alligator auschwitz, etc.)

And I’ll actually understand a little better!

Also you weren’t aware USAID helped Palestinians? Inform yourself! https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-24-106243#%3A~%3Atext=Fast+Facts%2Cfiscal+years+2020+through+2022.

Let’s pretend they’re the same on genocide (they’re not, because Harris wouldn’t have advocated turning it into a riviera, cut USAID that helped Gazans, or escalated in bombing Iran, leaving aside the fact that Bibi explicitly wanted), but:

In a binary choice election with the inevitable choices being Harris or Trump, one opted to assert both sides / false equivalence Harris being obviously better on:

• Climate Change
• Healthcare
• LGBTQ+ rights
• Women’s bodily autonomy
• Ukraine (and Russia’s ongoing genocide in Ukraine; so are bystanders complicit in genocide there?)
• Economic Inequality
• Immigration

Instead one enabled victory for the person who was not only worse in 1 genocide but arguably 3 genocides when counting Ukraine and Climate Change.

It logically makes zero sense.

I don’t think it comes as much surprise that AIPAC-backed Dems were more likely to continue to blindly support Biden.

You know, the lobbying firm whose bulk of funding comes from Republican origins.

I can see the strategic play of progressives not coming out and calling for Biden to step down because they would’ve been seen as a scapegoat and Biden may have dug in his heels more if progressives led the charge.

I said right-wing, not Russia. Try again, maybe?

But now that you mention it, the MUh boTH sides false equivalence fallacy is textbook Russian IRA troll farm tactics though. No surprise Republicans are in bed with Russians I suppose.

BTW, that you fixated on this destroys any credibility you may have had.

Passing the buck. Coward. You’re a US Senator. Act like it.

(though I guess these days cowardice is exemplary of Senate behavior).

Also, I’m totally sure Walz would’ve cast the tie-breaking vote for such a shit bill, isn’t that right couch sitters / stein voters? Try not to fall for the right-wing wedge driving disinfo ops next time please… If there is a next time.

Edit: Tankies, gullible Stein voters, accelerationists, nilhists, couch-sitters, vatniks – whatever you are – complaining below. Try your best not to feign too much concern over the passage of this and subsequent damage the GOP is doing. You don’t get a say here since obviously you believe Harris would’ve done the same, like (checks notes) booting millions off medicaid that will according to experts lead to 50,000 deaths annually. Some would argue such people who asserted a BoTh SiDeS fallacy are complicit in those deaths.

Now if you’re willing to admit your mistake, then welcome back.

Fair points! In my mind I guess I was thinking cyber truck vs. Rivian truck.

Rivian seems better in literally every way, isn’t it?

We need to utilize this offensively against Trump, though.

“Are you safer now than you were a couple of weeks ago?” The answer is a resounding no. As little risk though they may be, the odds of an Iranian terrorist attack was less then than it is now for me and my family.

Trump has thus made America less safe by dragging us into another war while food prices remain high.

They really couldn’t. They were caught between a rock and a hard place.

Which is why Musk was able to dump over $70 million in exactly opposite attack ad messages to both Jewish and Muslim communities inside the key battleground state of Pennsylvania.

If they pulled military aid on Ukraine, one of the most powerful lobbyists in a close election would’ve unleashed their funding, and Republicans too would have labeled Harris and Biden as Antisemitic. Netanyahu would have publicly stated that, “Democrats are putting Israeli citizens at risk from terrorist attack by leaving us defenseless!” In the worst case scenario, Netanyahu – already proven to be a psychopath who ignored obvious intelligence of an impending attack once – could have possibly staged a false flag attack similar to Putin’s past actions, and that would’ve sealed the deal. The public media would’ve labeled Biden/Harris as antisemitic and incompetent.

It’s why they literally had to toe the line between protecting Israel (because the inertia Israel has in our society, sadly), but also seek a peace deal and publicly advocate for a 2-state-solution, as Harris did. The media landscape was not favorable to Democrats, which is why they had limited cards to play.

Never once did I say that solely being against war with Iran meant someone was Putin’s puppet. Never. Either work on your reading comprehension or get your eyes checked.

What I did say is that those specific Republican members who are known Kremlin parrots conveniently oppose the war for ulterior motives. This much is clear.

Seemed pretty obvious that Bibi wanted Trump to win and intentionally stalled Gaza ceasefire agreements to make Biden/Harris look bad.

This may have been Trump returning his end of the bargain (or Trump is just a shortsighted and stupid piece of shit).