Steam comes preinstalled and configured on Bazzite, it isnt the flatpak version.

Is the rebase feature the main thing that sets atomic desktops apart?

Atomic and immutable distros essentially attempt to make each version on every computer act exactly the same to help devs with debugging. This means they shut down a lot of easy access to core system files, instead you have to use special commands to layer new changes onto your distro. These are automatically re-applied every time you upgrade, reducing the chance of breakage.

Rebasing is a fun consequence of this. Fedora Atomic images (re: things like Bazzite, Secureblue, Kinoite, etc) can be swapped out with a simple command or two. If a dev does something you don’t like, you can easily swap to a different image without having to do a full migration.

I’m not too worried about having to troubleshoot. Nobara has been appealing to me because it’s developed by the Proton guy.

Most of the kernel mods from nobara are applied on Bazzite. Bazzite and CachyOS afaik contribute to the same set of code there.

How does an atomic distro help teach containerization and data security as compared to a traditional distro?

Since you cannot easily modify system files, you need to use containers to make certain very technical (and often insecure) things work. DistroBox is the main method for this, and as a plus side, it lets you install programs with commands from any distro. I can use the AUR (an arch linux feature) on Bazzite (Fedora atomic) with DistroBox if i want, for example. There are some other things that come preinstalled on Bazzite that help with this, such as flathub and brew.sh

Bazzite has the latest KDE, yeah, currently reading 6.4 on the latest version. Nobara broke on upgrades for me (I did nothing crazy, basic install and basic upgrade process), bazzite is rock solid and built on a good base (fedora atomic). In general, I fully recommend immutable atomic distros for noobies it all just works and it helps teach you important lessons on data security and containerization

The best thing about atomic linux images like Bazzite is if for whatever reason Bazzite stops releasing new versions you can rebase to a different “distro” and itll have all of your user data and configs intact with a single simple command. With things like Nobara or Garuda, if there is a problem you essentially have to do a clean install.

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And as for Arch, Linux mint, etc., I personally find these distros and advice to be outdated. Upgrades can often break in many smaller linux distros and it is very important to have a strong and reproducible method of upgrading, especially for new users. VanillaOS and Fedora Atomic are currently the most user friendly ways to achieve flawless upgrades.

A lot of the info here reads as outdated to me, I have a 40 series card and on bazzite with open drivers it works with zero issues on major titles like Cyberpunk, Horizon, etc. The open drivers have come a long way. It took maybe 5 months post 40 series release for it to work 100% with no glaring issues for me, but 40 series was also the first cards to be launched with the open drivers so it makes sense there’d be hiccups

The only issues I’ve had on Wayland are color related.

Guys like this always go to bat for pedophiles, wonder what he says about queer people.

for real. small country that stays in its small part of the world and doesnt really bother anyone? definitely the first to nuke! definitely not the globe spanning empire that has already used nukes at war.

Np! Glad you enjoy it! Its made by KDE themselves. You might like Bazzite w/ KDE or Aurora. Generally, I feel ublue adds a lot to atomic distros in terms of automation and nice to have features

If I’m trying to look up how to do terminal stuff to install something not on flatpak, 99% of the time the instructions are for regular Fedora, not Silverblue.

This is solved by the various ublue images and distrobox generally. Distrobox basically lets you run those install instructions as natively as possible. Its a bit like WINE but for all linux distros. For example, I can install a .deb file to my system with distrobox, or I could pull from Arch’s AUR. Distrobox lets you be pretty lazy, it works most of the time, though some applications don’t seem to like it. And by the way, you can download a .rpm file and layer it using rpm-ostree install [.rpm filelocation] if all else fails.

Generally, I feel like Fedora Atomic is the best middleground for linux these days. It really incentivizes the users to use containers, which are far more secure than the permissions anarchy of normal linux. Its easy enough to daily drive too.

What feature does ShareX provide that Spectacle doesnt? You can share to imgur, telegram, etc with it.

+1 to op for posting the solution godspeed 🫡

It really depends on the game. Old games often run better on Linux than on windows. Check protondb to see how supported the game is, may be a driver issue. Old Nvidia parts use proprietary drivers which suck in comparison to old AMD parts which use open source drivers on Linux. New Nvidia parts use open source drivers, though these drivers are new and still having the kinks worked out. Sometimes laptops even have specific proprietary drivers that must be used for the laptop which can break compatibility with Linux or reduce performance. I’m pretty sure Intel is in the same boat, it’s proprietary.

Personally, for games I enjoy, I saw a small 5fps performance increase over windows on a newish desktop.

Adding that what they said above is correct. I personally hop between secureblue and bazzite depending if I want to game that day. Works great

I also have it on an old laptop which atomic is great for leaving unupdated for a long time and updating it without config when you need it

What? You’re acting like Fedora is like Apple or Microsoft lmao

The biggest issue I’ve had is tweaks causing instability over time. I also have had some issues where I was updating a debian install that hadn’t been updated in 3 years and it broke and would require tweaking to fix (why do this when I can just load a new immutable install and fix it for good?). I have enough computers laying around that I’d really rather it work when I want to as a sure thing. So far my testing with immutable distros has been stellar, I’ll let everyone know if my ostree tweaks and updates don’t load in 3 years, lol.

I think this is a big enough problem that even the Fedora team considered it an issue and therefore pushed out Fedora Atomic.

It uses more, yeah. But it’s not a lot more. You could maybe compare the iso sizes

Oooh, didn’t know about that. Very exciting

I have a build like this for tinkering but to say it is slow and inefficient is an understatement. Very secure though. I can’t really see daily driving it.

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Things can change rapidly

You might want to look at the ujust commands on Bazzite, they have some options for setting up surround sound and VR I’m quite sure. I have a pretty simple setup personally so I’ve never used those things.