Really? Trump mentioning that most nato members do not meet the required defense spending undermines nato.

As a member of a NATO military that doesn’t meet the targets for spending, I agree this doesn’t undermine NATO, it’s just the truth that we need to start pulling more weight monetarily.

BUT that’s not the point and you missed key details about what he said that absolutely DOES undermine NATO, such as:

“I said: ‘You didn’t pay? You’re delinquent?’… ‘No I would not protect you, in fact I would encourage them to do whatever they want. You gotta pay.’”

So you’re showing that you either didn’t read the article, didn’t understand the article or are being willfully ignorant of the article.

That’s nice of you to say. What do you suggest he does about it? I’m so sick of these spineless, yellow-bellied Internet commenters saying that something should be done about it and suggesting precisely fuck all. OFFER A SOLUTION, ALREADY, YOU COWARDS!

Edit: Mocking tone aside, I’m serious, what can Jens realistically do? Kick the USA out of NATO? That’s Trump’s goal anyways. The issues with Trump are an internal American issue that can’t be fixed by Norwegian politicians unfortunately.

That’s one way to look at it, if you’re looking to downplay the human impact. The way I look at is these companies had a short sighted hiring spree and now thousands of people are without income and can’t just get a new job as the industry is laying off everywhere. That seems like a reasonable source of panic for the people with no income and not a lot of prospects.

Oh absolutely, which is the worrisome part of all of this to me. Someone doesn’t even need to build something good, just good enough.

Funny (but not funny, as it was a tragedy) that you should bring up the OKC bombings as an example of building a good bomb. McVeigh’s bomb didn’t work properly and failed to fully high order, it was just so much ANFO that it didn’t even matter.

They could very likely come up with something very functional, making IEDs, and even cooking your own explosive fillers is exceptionally easy, you really only need a very basic understanding of chemistry and circuitry (like grade 9 or 10 level). If extremists hiding in caves in Afghanistan could make consistent and effective devices with HME, then Joe Redneck with Internet access and over the counter access to Ammonium Nitrate Aluminum (Tannerite, which is legal in most states and often sold at gun stores) can probably do it too.