I don’t remember directly calling you that, but I’ll take your word for it. Either way, we probably agree more than we disagree. I just hate having to argue about this.

Aspirin, morphine and chemotherapy: the essential medicines powered by plants

Putting cigarettes behind a prescription wall would create a drug cartel. This is where black markets come from. So let’s not do that.

I lamented the fact that we have to wait for people who support corporate rent seeking to die out before we change that system, just like we did with slavers. Why is that insulting to you?

Ketamine is not the only drug for which a prescription is required.

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Your argument has been that you do care what plants I eat by virtue of your defense of our corporate prescription system, whose purpose is to put people who eat plants without permission in prison. Remember?

And I don’t want corporate douchebags telling me what plants I’m allowed to eat.

An accurate assessment of reality.

What do you want me to say to you? Yes, your moral compass is broken but thanks for making all our lives miserable by funding the drug cartels?

Yep. We have to wait for these boomer-brain uneducated morons to die out so we can make progress in society.

We had to wait for people like you to die out to end slavery and now we will wait again to end the corporate prescription racket.

This makes no sense. I’m not allowed to ingest medicine because you intend to date rape people?

As for antibiotic resistance — sure! If there’s a medicine whose consumption on the individual level has some sort of effect on others, then you get to regulate it. My ingestion of anti-depressants has zero impact on anybody except me. Face it, a thousand years from now an enlightened humanity will look back on things like our bizarre corporate prescription system and think we were unethical baboons.

Putting up a rent-seeking middleman between a person and a drug makes the drug harder to obtain. It’s also insulting. The idea that someone else, some officious busybody, gets to dictate what you do with your body has no basis in any coherent moral system ever concocted. You are entitled to regulate drugs, to demand that the label is “correct.” You are not entitled to stop anyone from ingesting them. That is a profound violation of human autonomy.

Ketamine is commonly used to treat PTSD. But sure, since some people will use it for criminal purposes we all get fucked, right?

Imagine a bureaucracy of dunces that gets to tell you what plants you’re allowed to ingest. We live in a clown world.

I hate this obsessive puritanical attempt to control what we do with our bodies to the point that there’s an entire rent-seeking middleman prescription system. If it didn’t already exist, it would be comical. But anything to extract wealth from the masses, right? “War on drugs” proponents are the worst among us.

EDIT: ketamine is used to treat PTSD. Yes, you can overdose. But if in your heart of hearts you think you’re entitled to prevent someone from ingesting medicine until they beg a corporate bureaucrat for permission, then your ethical compass is so fucked you’re probably the sort of person who would have supported slavery a few hundred years ago.

And the dark ages?

Look, any non-natural human-caused suffering I can think of can be linked to cults. And religion is just a super popular cult.

I’m pretty sure they mean human-caused catastrophes. Although if we count meat consumption as a sort of quasi-religious behavior then maybe you’re right.

Which is like 95% of all war. Mein Kampf mentions god literally dozens of times. No secular democracies have ever gone to war with each other, and virtually all autocratic regimes are religious.

Daily reminder that religion is a monstrous evil.

I’m against the death penalty, so I’m not sure what “moral position” of mine you’re attacking exactly. Our only point of friction so far has been over the use of basic logic when formulating strong opinions.