Ahead of a UN Security Council meeting Monday to discuss the recent violation of Estonia's airspace by three Russian fighter jets, Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk said Poland would shoot down aircraft…

Ahead of a UN Security Council meeting Monday to discuss the recent violation of Estonia’s airspace by three Russian fighter jets, Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk said Poland would shoot down aircraft that clearly violate its airspace

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  • Riddick3001@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
    471·
    17 days ago

    Always good to keep the skies neat and tidy, I say.

    Somebody must clean the air and shoot down all that " strange flying debris " over European airspace, that is clearly NOT Ruzzian. /s

    edit. neat & tidy

  • Honytawk@feddit.nlEnglish
    261·
    16 days ago

    Damn, seems like there is a Russian bot trying to divert the Russian attack on NATO countries to something about Epstein.

    Good thing they failed. Just like how Russia will fail to capture the old USSR territories. I’m hoping they will lose even more territories in the end.

    Time for Russia to fracture and the current government to take their own medicine and disappear.

      • floo@retrolemmy.comEnglish
        13·
        17 days ago

        Stop making your bullshit excuses for why you won’t fight Hitler. The rest of the world is sick and tired of a century of your being the pussies of the world who welcome the Nazis. Don’t do it twice. We might not forgive you the second time.

        In the last thing I, as an American, need is a lesson on how to resist the Nazis from a Belgian. You guys waved the Nazi flag the instant they sniffed at you the right way.

      • floo@retrolemmy.comEnglish
        11·
        17 days ago

        There is no “correct “Donald.” stop sucking Donald Trump’s dick.

          • floo@retrolemmy.comEnglish
            11·
            17 days ago

            Your pretentious entitlement. I’m V8 how wrong you are. I don’t even need to read a response. You’re an arrogant, dumb, shit, and unless you try to stop fashions now, it’ll steam roll right over you like it did 100 years ago.

            And just like 100 years ago, unless we can all save ourselves from fascism, we’re all fucked. Quit making it to us versus them thing. Just fight, fascism, or admit your too much of a pussy to fight for your own freedoms. This is not an American thing versus European thing. This is a freedom versus slavery thing.

            So pick freedom or pick slavery, but don’t pretend that being a Nazi was ever an American thing. It’s a shitty thing that could happen to any country, and can only be defeated when we all work together.

            But if you’d rather talk shit about America and want us to burn, then you’re burying yourselves. Because once we fall, you fall.

            So Cunt about it all you like, but the less you do, the more you guarantee your own slavery under the Nazis

            So it’s more important to you? Being a fucking Cunt, or fighting Nazis, because it’s gonna come down to one of the other, and if you think sliding with the Nazis, just a shit talk America is gonna get you a “winning” position…

            I look forward to the Nazis tearing your people apart.

              • floo@retrolemmy.comEnglish
                1·
                17 days ago

                Make sure that your obituary clearly defines who you are. I wouldn’t wanna miss it.

                I like throwing parties.

                You know, because if I were so stupidly and foolishly wrong as you, I’d have killed myself a long time ago.

                But I’m not. You are.

                I look forward to eating spicy sausages at a barbecue. I will throw at your funeral to celebrate your death. If that doesn’t come? I’ll just barbecue a bunch of sausage, sausages and celebrate your death anyway.

                Goodbye you nightmares piece of shit. I’m blocking you, so I’ll never have to deal with the existence of you again.

                Fuck the Nazis. That includes you.

      • floo@retrolemmy.comEnglish
        11·
        17 days ago

        Turd brain responses will get you the turd brain answer you begged for:

        Being a dumb piece of shit does not abdicate your responsibility to do something about fascism.

        Fascism cannot succeed without you, and unless he resistant, his history will remember you as the piece of shit you are for letting fascism takeoff

        • Empricorn@feddit.nlEnglish
          231·
          17 days ago

          Please take your medication. I’m in the US, Trump tries to distract from being in the Epstein files all the time, but this specific story has nothing to do with the US or Trump. FFS, there’s 3 countries involved in this single article, and not one of them is the US!

        • GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          8·
          17 days ago

          Did somebody put something in the water, or something? There’s an epidemic of names i recognize losing their fucking minds over the last three days or so.

              • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
                1·
                5 days ago

                so. you were right. i was a bit too dismissive, with my above comment, i think. i still stand by it though for why people and bots are acting in this particular way. but i’ve noticed an interesting pattern where an account will mostly act normal but every once in a while go on a completely unhinged run

  • Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    1016·
    17 days ago

    I do not say this to criticize these plans, but: I wonder how many drone hobbyists are about to get their shit wrecked. I know civilian and military drones are vastly different, but from a military perspective I guess how spooked would you be/be willing to be before just shooting it down if it looks funny and shouldn’t be there?

    • Riddick3001@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      261·
      17 days ago

      Check the specs of Shahed drones ( 3.5 m or 11 ft). They don’t look civilian at all.

      Also it’s not only about drones but about boats, submarines and MIG jets.

        • Riddick3001@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          11·
          16 days ago

          Were there some boat and submarine incursions into Polish airspace I missed?

          Context : Ruzz hybrid warfare and incursions in Europe. The latest ones being drones and fighter jets . See UN sec link for more UN Sec info and other links for other incursions.

      • Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        42·
        17 days ago

        That’s what I’m saying, even though civilian drones don’t look like military drones, would you trust an enemy force to not utilize civilian drones in some way? At which point it becomes how do you tell them apart when a civilian flies a drone somewhere unexpected, and how much do you care about false positives.

        • Attacker94@lemmy.worldEnglish
          10·
          17 days ago

          If there is any doubt, shoot first then find out who gets mad. I would hazard a guess that a. Drone enthusiasts are smart enough to fly their drones away from the border, and b. Shooting and then paying to replace a drone would be a cheap expenditure for national security.

        • Riddick3001@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          3·
          17 days ago

          They have and they do. It’s an issue when it’s not clear. Recently Belarusian used civilian drones somewhere , they got arrested

          Just now developing story in Denmark

          edit: clarification

    • HubertManne@piefed.socialEnglish
      22·
      17 days ago

      This seems like a nuts perspective to me. If a another country was sometimes flying drones through my countries I would not be worried about some hobbyist drones.

      • Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        22·
        17 days ago

        I literally prefaced it with saying that I wasn’t criticizing the plan. I just know there are stupid people in the world with money, and they tend to have drones. If idly wondering about something is new to anyone then I apologize for the culture shock.

        • HubertManne@piefed.socialEnglish
          3·
          17 days ago

          yeah I missed it and im sure it was just my lazy mind not taking the start of your comment into account. I get it now.

    • NecroParagon@midwest.socialEnglish
      4·
      17 days ago

      That’s fair though the drones they’re primarily concerned about look more like small planes rather than recreational drones. I’m assuming if any Poles have drones to fly, they’re likely well off enough to head a bit west to avoid them being shot down. And with modern nav/attack chains I’m pretty confident they’ll discern between the two.

  • floo@retrolemmy.comEnglish
    228·
    17 days ago

    Edit: , this must be a Nazi worshiping community. I guess you’ll learn something new every day… like how every one of these criticisms strikes you all to the core because not a single one of you is more mature than a two year-old

    You’re down to vote validate me, and you’re gonna get a lot more of that

    • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zipEnglish
      134·
      17 days ago

      That is giving Europe way too much credit. One or two countries (mostly Finland) are ready. Most others very much aren’t. In large part because, up until recently, they had a weirdo with the largest standing army on the planet asking to solo russia.