• Triumph@fedia.io
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    16 days ago

    How is this even a thing that could be asked for? Who do they think they are, Nintendo?

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      16 days ago

      Through the same mechanism that Champagne and various cheeses are protected. There are different categories for those rules like geographical protection(under which Champagne falls) or preparation(which would have been the one kebab would go under).

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      16 days ago

      The article literally refers to the Traditional Specialty Guarantee label in the second sentence. They want to treat it like Pizza Napoletana or Serrano Ham, but it’s too general for that now.

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    17 days ago

    My favorite hyper gate kept food tradition is the cheese in Italy and the guy on YouTube that teaches people how to make cheese but he doesn’t live in Italy let alone the correct regions so he got a cease and desist for a video he made by the Italian cheese police

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      G’day curd nerd! The cheese and desist thing was definitely a dick move by this Italian consortium, but iirc they later admitted that they had overstepped and ended in good terms with the Aussie youtuber.

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      16 days ago

      I mean you can make your cheese the same way and tell your friends its parmegiano reggiano or whatever, you just can’t sell it under that name.

      In the same vein I can make a Lego set and share it with my friends and we can call it Lego but the moment I try selling it then the Lego company comes knocking.

      It’s not gate keeping, it’s just trademark but for food. People may disagree with it but I personally think it’s a great way of keeping those food traditions alive and ensuring you get what you paid for. Also pretty sure that if you don’t live in the EU you can just call your cheese the same and nothing will happen to you.

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      16 days ago

      Western “Chinese” food is 100% American, it’s really fascinating. There are some funny videos of people handing fortune cookies to real Chinese people in China and them being super confused that there’s paper inside

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        16 days ago

        European chinese food is def a creation of rhe people that immigrated here. There is no american connection in between. What the fuck are you smoking

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          “Many of the dishes that are commonly recognized as “Chinese food” were actually developed in America and bear little resemblance to traditional Chinese cuisine. Examples include fortune cookiescrab rangoon, and General Tso’s chicken, none of which originated in China. Instead, these dishes were crafted to suit American palates, often characterized by sweetness, bold sauces, and deep-fried dishes.”

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            16 days ago

            fortune cookies, crab rangoon, and General Tso’s chicken

            The other commenter specified ‘European’,as to remind that Europe is included in the term ‘western’, and I haven’t seen any of these here.

            Also I think that calling a style developed by Chinese people, that had learned to cook from other Chinese people (and so on for many generations) ‘100% American’ is debatable at least.

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    16 days ago

    I don’t get it. Surely the german kebab industry could just change their signs to say german style kebab instead of doner?

    Apart from hygiene, they can’t force you to make food a specific way, right? They can only regulate what you’re allowed to call it based on how it’s made. Anyone with more knowledge on the matter who can enlighten me?

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      16 days ago

      they can’t force you to make food a specific way, right?

      I see you’re not very familiar with the eu. They can and they do, if you want to call it some specific name they force you to do it in some specific way, or to source the ingredients or even make it in a specific place. It does make sense, in a way, but it also can get to ridiculous points some times.

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        if you want to call it some specific name

        Yeah, that’s what I thought - they can regulate what you’re allowed to call it based on how you make it.

        But they can’t ban all veal rotisserie, or outlaw cutting meat thicker than 5mm. Right?

        The sparkling wine industry wasn’t crippled by not being called champagne and I don’t see how the german kebab industry would be crippled by not being called doner unless it was prepared in the doner style.

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      No, the vertical spit and the term doner kebab is traced back to Bursa in the 1800s, with offshoots into shawarma and gyros thereafter. It wasn’t until the 1970s that German Döner Kebab evolved in Berlin.

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    16 days ago

    Too bad politics always attracts the worst narcissists instead of people that actually want to solve the ever growing problems that the rich keep creating