What if I just want my phone’s text messaging app to only do text messages? What if I don’t want fluff features like voice messages that I didn’t ask for? Is there a simple vanilla text messaging app to take over texts on my phone since Google feels the need to add extra weight to Messages, an otherwise simple feature that all cell phones share?
Luckily you’re on android and not an iPhone. You can go ahead and install whichever text messaging handling application you would like in its place to use and switch the default app.
I know. I was pointing out one of the nice things that this person can do, since they’re referring specifically to the default android sms handling app, is that android allows you to switch the default to whatever sms app you’d prefer to use. So if you don’t like the direction Google is taking theirs, you can find a different one that better fits with what you prefer.
If you have an iPhone and don’t like the direction apple takes one of their default apps, like sms or phone calling apps, you can’t change the defaults that handle those and other phone functions.
I really don’t know why you’re being down voted, this is definitely true. I’m Gen Z, and I definitely got excluded from group chats in high school because I have an Android phone. Even in college it’s a pain to communicate with people outside of engineering/CS/DS majors because they always complain about the green bubble.
I personally use QKSMS, which isn’t perfect, but it’s all I’ve been able to stand since Signal dropped SMS support.
This RCS stuff scares me a bit, because it sounds like it will function over a data connection and not be nearly as universal of a standard as SMS/MMS is. There are already a million such apps and standards if one wants to use data for messaging. Trying to sneak it on top of SMS is very annoying. If I use my SMS app, I want my messages to be sent as such. Getting a surprise data bill shouldn’t be a fear.
RCS does function over a data connection (and WiFi!), however unless you’re sending large files over the wire it’s probably not going to have any effect on your data bill. Text messages are a handful of kilobytes large at worst. SMS/MMS have lots of issues to do with security and capability, and most handsets support it in some form already.
Very unsurprising that Discord consumes a bunch of data but that’s not really a “messaging app”.
If Signal is consuming too much data, it’s because you’re in too many group chats with photos and videos. You can change the settings so media will only download over Wi-Fi.
No one is trying to “sneak” anything. The ideal messaging app has advanced messaging features as the primary and then falls back to SMS if it’s unavailable, and that’s exactly how this works.
If you’re looking for a less advanced and secure app, you can very easily install and use anything else.
Because SMS is inherently feature-lite. But it’s free and unlimited, which is kind of the whole point of using it over a feature-rich app that uses data.
That looks like it’s stopped being developed too. Connect You, a Contacts app originally, is adding SMS support— but right now it kind of sucks, so we probably want to wait a bit for development.
You can replace it with any of thousands of old shitty SMS apps if you want. It’s not iOS.
Most of us want advanced features and privacy. And unfortunately, in order to get those features, you often have to be using the same app/service across devices. Google seems to have finally caught on that constantly changing messaging apps is killing them, so they made an app to be the “default” on Android devices.
Not if you want RCS. Google still refuses to make a user-level API for some reason. So you can only use the messenger app bundled with your phone for RCS.
None will, Google is slowly closed-sourcing the entire platform. Messaging was one of the next steps. Also why apps like Signal won’t be seeing carrier messaging in the future.
For me, the one feature I want from messages is sending text messages when I don’t have an internet connection. If “having features [I’m not] interested in using” means it breaks the one feature I want (by default & without telling me), seems reasonable to be a bit peeved, no?
The connection between having a feature you don’t want and missing one you do want is entirely in your mind. If you’re going to complain, why not complain about what’s actually bothering you?
What if I just want my phone’s text messaging app to only do text messages? What if I don’t want fluff features like voice messages that I didn’t ask for? Is there a simple vanilla text messaging app to take over texts on my phone since Google feels the need to add extra weight to Messages, an otherwise simple feature that all cell phones share?
Luckily you’re on android and not an iPhone. You can go ahead and install whichever text messaging handling application you would like in its place to use and switch the default app.
You’re not forced to use iPhones
I know. I was pointing out one of the nice things that this person can do, since they’re referring specifically to the default android sms handling app, is that android allows you to switch the default to whatever sms app you’d prefer to use. So if you don’t like the direction Google is taking theirs, you can find a different one that better fits with what you prefer.
If you have an iPhone and don’t like the direction apple takes one of their default apps, like sms or phone calling apps, you can’t change the defaults that handle those and other phone functions.
Gotcha, I agree with you.
@WarmSoda @Ranvier in the US, especially if you’re young, you’re indirectly forced. Luckily here that’s not the case.
I really don’t know why you’re being down voted, this is definitely true. I’m Gen Z, and I definitely got excluded from group chats in high school because I have an Android phone. Even in college it’s a pain to communicate with people outside of engineering/CS/DS majors because they always complain about the green bubble.
why is complain
I personally use QKSMS, which isn’t perfect, but it’s all I’ve been able to stand since Signal dropped SMS support.
This RCS stuff scares me a bit, because it sounds like it will function over a data connection and not be nearly as universal of a standard as SMS/MMS is. There are already a million such apps and standards if one wants to use data for messaging. Trying to sneak it on top of SMS is very annoying. If I use my SMS app, I want my messages to be sent as such. Getting a surprise data bill shouldn’t be a fear.
RCS does function over a data connection (and WiFi!), however unless you’re sending large files over the wire it’s probably not going to have any effect on your data bill. Text messages are a handful of kilobytes large at worst. SMS/MMS have lots of issues to do with security and capability, and most handsets support it in some form already.
Not everyone has a large data plan. I am very aware of how much messaging taxes my data plan: the entirety of my data is already used by it.
You are mistaken.
I’m really not. 75% of my data this month has been used by Signal and Discord.
Very unsurprising that Discord consumes a bunch of data but that’s not really a “messaging app”.
If Signal is consuming too much data, it’s because you’re in too many group chats with photos and videos. You can change the settings so media will only download over Wi-Fi.
Many people do use Discord as a messaging app. I am really only using it for private messages when I am on data.
I only have two Signal contacts, and no group chats. Video is set to download only on WiFi, but I do need to be able to see images.
If you’re using Discord for private messages, you are making another mistake.
Then disable RCS chats in the settings? I doubt traditional SMS is going anywhere soon.
No one is trying to “sneak” anything. The ideal messaging app has advanced messaging features as the primary and then falls back to SMS if it’s unavailable, and that’s exactly how this works.
If you’re looking for a less advanced and secure app, you can very easily install and use anything else.
If I wanted a messaging app with advanced features, I wouldn’t be using the SMS app that came with my phone.
…and why not?
Because SMS is inherently feature-lite. But it’s free and unlimited, which is kind of the whole point of using it over a feature-rich app that uses data.
A lot of messaging apps became popular because carriers were charging per-SMS in some countries.
Basic text messaging should consumer virtually zero data. If they are, you should consider using a different app.
Photos use a decent amount of data regardless of what app you’re sending them by.
It doesn’t consume much more than it does on SMS
QKSMS hasn’t been maintained in a while, besides one update at the start of 2023.
It may be better to go with, and I personally just use, PartisanSMS which is an improved fork of QKSMS.
That looks like it’s stopped being developed too. Connect You, a Contacts app originally, is adding SMS support— but right now it kind of sucks, so we probably want to wait a bit for development.
I think that in SMS there simply is not more to have, they have everything needed.
There haven’t been any issues, so I don’t see why development is needed.
You can replace it with any of thousands of old shitty SMS apps if you want. It’s not iOS.
Most of us want advanced features and privacy. And unfortunately, in order to get those features, you often have to be using the same app/service across devices. Google seems to have finally caught on that constantly changing messaging apps is killing them, so they made an app to be the “default” on Android devices.
I’m pretty sure not being iOS is a feature.
But then you lose RCS.
Yes that’s what they asked for
Textra, QKSMS, NextSMS, PulseSMS, and so on. Many (most, all?) are much better than Google.
Pulse is shit now, it’s been acquired by a sketchy company.
Bummer. I used it for years.
Maybe an old version from apkmirror?
Yes, that could work. I just switched to Google Messages which, other than being from Google, is pretty good.
Not if you want RCS. Google still refuses to make a user-level API for some reason. So you can only use the messenger app bundled with your phone for RCS.
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For years I used Textra. It did SMS amazingly. I only switched to Google Messages for RCS support, although I believe Textra added that now.
I’m not seeing that it does RCS. Would love to see a Foss app that does. Anyone?
None do yet, because Google doesn’t publish an API for apps to use RCS.
Another reason I say fuck RCS.
None will, Google is slowly closed-sourcing the entire platform. Messaging was one of the next steps. Also why apps like Signal won’t be seeing carrier messaging in the future.
The fact we need Google and phone carrier approval to use the system is a reason to drop it.
I don’t get why some people are so offended by a piece of software having features they aren’t interested in using.
For me, the one feature I want from messages is sending text messages when I don’t have an internet connection. If “having features [I’m not] interested in using” means it breaks the one feature I want (by default & without telling me), seems reasonable to be a bit peeved, no?
The connection between having a feature you don’t want and missing one you do want is entirely in your mind. If you’re going to complain, why not complain about what’s actually bothering you?
I thought I was already complaining about what’s actually bothering me 😅