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- android@lemdro.id
Quoting the tl;dr in the linked article:
Samsung could be stepping up its game by offering seven years of major Android updates for the Galaxy S24 series, and the generous update policy might extend to other Galaxy flagships.
The Galaxy S24 series might also introduce charges for AI features like Live Translate and Pixel-like photo editing tools after 2025.
There’s speculation that users may need to sign in to their Samsung accounts for certain AI functionalities.
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That is not the only big thing of pixels. To me it’s the openness. These are, ironically, the best and easiest phones to leave google. Or at least root them without the evergrowing hassles of each iteration of samcraps.
Noone would ever buy a PC if they wouldn’t get admin-access and mustn’t install Linux or whatever. With phones they managed to keep us out.
i always found it funny that the best method of having a privacy focused phone (without having significant tradeoffs like the pinephone) is to buy the phone from the company who violates privacy the worst, and flashing over it.
Noone would ever buy a PC if they wouldn’t get admin-access
Why not? They do it with phones all the time.
“you can’t uninstall a system-app” (while trying to get rid of all the bloatware like mcaffee)
“you cannot upgrade to win8, but you can factory-reset your win7”
“you can only factory-reset 3 times, please call <insert company>-support!”
“you don’t have access to this file”
"defender has removed this ‘malware’ and there’s nothing you can do about it’
“You can’t install linux on this machine, this machine came bundled with Win7Home”
“you cannot install this program”
“you are not allowed to enter the bios”
“you cannot boot from this non-licensed device” (usb-stick)
etc.
One of these would probably do it :-)
exactly. the golden age was like 2015ish. great roms, easy to root, headphone jack, flat screens.
To talk about the article instead of ranting on about niche wants:
- 7 years of updates would be really good. Given how mature the hardware is nowadays, I can see a phone doing 7 years, save for the battery. Will Samsung be able to keep batteries in production?
- I’m less sold on the AI things, I guess that’s the buzzword now. AI AI AI everywhere. Also the two features mentioned are already in Google products, and I’d rather use those if I have to, unless Samsung pulls out a surprise and show that they are better at software development than Google is.
unless that comes with either a 600-700$ decrease in price or the readdition of a microSD card slot I’m not interested.
After phone storage got beyond 32GB, I thought I won’t need a microSD slot anymore. I was wrong and my 128GB are full again. Downloading shows and music in high quality needs quite a bit of storage, not to mention videos. As if to make matters worse, the OS takes up more storage than my first two phones had at all.
I never understood why anybody wouldn’t need SD access… There’s no way to have a reliable backup location in the event you can’t reach the internet for whatever reason.
Will they be bringing SD support back? I don’t get how people can use phones without SD support…
Which is funny because I don’t get why people want it. Unless you’re shooting a whole bunch of 4K video, i have no idea why it’s needed.
Here are a few examples of why someone would want it:
Not everyone lives in areas with great wireless connections.
Some are also limited to how much data they can use. So most store their music/movies/pictures on the local SD drive because they don’t use cloud storage.
I have a large music collection and store them on various SD cards in addition to my usually hard drives. When I want to listen to music I pop it in my Sony phone and listen to them. I refuse to use music streaming apps. I’ve tried SoundCloud, Spotify, and Google Music and each one didn’t have niche songs I enjoy. I Also there are various songs across various streaming services that I listen to but none all on the same service. I would rather own the files myself and put together my own comprehensive playlists. So I just pop it into my phone, enjoy the music I like, at no cost to me and I don’t have to worry about my Internet service in various places that I work out of that are deep in a building and don’t get any reception. I have lots of movie files and pornography that take up terrabytes. I need these on a Micro SD card because my phone’s internal storage isn’t large enough. I have another SD card with all my gba roms and saves that I can pop into my phone and play GBA games if I’m waiting around at the DMV, public spaces. Theen when I’m home I can pop that same SD card out with all my saves and roms and put it in my ez flash and play on my actual modded Game Boy Advance or into my modded a GameCube and play them without having to copy and paste save files, etc.
As a photographer i love it
Samsung could easily win me over if their bootloader was unlock able.
Edit: Apparently it’s just US variants that can’t be unlockedThey aren’t? My phone has an option to unlock it, tho I haven’t used it.
wdym, you just go to dev options and allow it, then reboot and do fastboot unlock.
press power button a couple of times (THIS WILL TRIP KNOX E-FUSE PERMANENTLY WITHOUT ANY WAY TO RECOVER), wait for data to be erased and boom it’s unlockedWell, bootloader unlock toggle in developer options and fastboot eom unlock are available, am I missing something?
Not in the US.
@Gallardo994 @Osiris you can’t if you have Samsung with Snapdragon
Miss me with that AI bullshit, just make the screen completely flat on S24U and I’ll be more than happy.
Please. Who is interested in the curve anymore? I know they just do it for the people in the store.
I like the edge curve on my S9+ and Note 20U. Makes the bezels feel smaller and makes for a smoother swipe finger-feel.
But if I could trade that for removable battery/storage/repairability I would.
My only complaint about curved screens is that it makes it impossible to properly protect the screen, and offers ??? in exchange.
I’ve had screen protectors on all my edge-curved screens 🤷♂️
I said “properly”.
Proper screen protection doesn’t mean a 1mm thick reflective grease-magnet on top of the display. It means a case that provides several millimeters of much softer materials.
I guess I always use a case so for me it just feels like anothervpkace for dust to settle.
Wish granted, it is completely flat
Charging extra for features of a £1000+ phone is hilarious. They really try and act like we’re getting them for free.
They want to be apple.
But they are not.
I mean, just have 65W+ charging. It’s the single biggest feature that neither offers.
It’s as if the whole world is split between those who could not live without it and those who haven’t yet experience it.
I was at an airport recently where my flight was delayed a few hours. There were so many anxious people waiting to use plug sockets, the fear of a dead battery making the atmosphere tense everywhere, you could almost smell it.
I waited for the queues to form when the flight was called to board and eventually a plug socket near my seat in the bar became free. 20% to 80% in 15 minutes, onto the plane and sorted.
Google, Samsung & Apple are useless for me until they have that.
Wouldn’t a power bank solve that issue? So far the airports I’ve been to usually have the power sockets completely hogged so I don’t even count on the chance that one is free. I usually bring along a power bank that gets me through 2-3 full charges of my phone.
really I’ve rarely seen airports that full even LAX but I also don’t travel during the busy times of the year
7 years of updates is the tour of competition I like to see
Nickle and diming “AI” features isn’t.
I’m pretty happy about that, I don’t want AI features and not paying for them seems to guarantee they won’t be involved with the phone.
I hate all the AI upscaling they do, those moon shots suck.
So, when is the camera tech finally going to be good enough to make the camera flush with the phone body?
As an iPhone feature, we get these AI features for free and the phones cost the same.
Although im not sure about the photo editing.
The biggest reason I do t use Android is the lack of long term security and software updates.
The second reason is bloatware.
Take something like GrapheneOS if security is important for you:
- No bloatware
- 7 years of updates on the new pixel phones with it
- Much more secure than an iPhone
- An iPhone isn’t really privacy respecting or similar even though Apple always claims it to be
- An iPhone locks you in. Heck you can’t even let Nextcloud or Immich sync files in the background on iOS just because Apple says “no background sync only works good with our own services so you give us your money and use iCloud Photos and Drive”.
I need to use commercial chat apps for work on my phone. I’m concerned they will not work on GrapheneOS.
When it comes to my work, privacy has to come second, so I’m just sticking with the main operating systems.
Which ones? Haven’t experienced any app that doesn’t work with GrapheneOS. Even my banking apps work. Only thing that doesn’t work is Google Pay.
I guess the bigger point is that even if my apps work now, they are so important to my business that if they stopped working then I immediately would not be able to do my work until I got a new phone.
I rely on specific chat apps so heavily to communicate with clients.
Atleast in Australia , the iphones cost double.
lol this is hilarious 😂 it does not matter how long they say you get updates so good as Samsung is in 7 years you are getting 3/4 updates … 😂 😂 😂 but most people eat with the eyes 👀 wow 7 years? I go to buy a Samsung 😂😂😂 do that and come back in 7 years to tell me about your experience good luck
Tizen or whatever they call it now is garbage. That is why I have a pixel.
Do you mean the custom chips they make, exynos? Tizen is their operating system for televisions.
Their OS for phones. It was also called Tizen at one point I think.
You spelt TV wrong.
Their watches also used to be based on Tizen before WearOS
Literally never. At best they had a UI called TouchWiz which has long since been replaced by OneUI.
You had a Samsung which runs Tizen? No wonder it sucks.
Fuckin hate my Pixel.
Edit: didn’t realize you guys were up Google’s ass this much.
As someone that is interested in getting a pixel to use GrapheneOS I’m interested to hear what you hate about it. I’m still a little bit on the fence about it.
If you’ll be slapping a different OS on, I’m sure it’ll be fine. The hardware leaves a bit to be desired at the MSRP price point, but they depreciate pretty hard- a used one might be a win. I just know that it’s a touch buggy for me, especially with StOcK aNdRoId and all.
