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      As you should. I saw all the memes before watching the video, and was happy to see that it wasn’t the “four-minute standing ovation” I kept hearing about when I finally watched it.

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      Sure, fuck hexbear…but congress literally did give a standing ovation to a mass murderer, there is no getting around that reality. That’s not me, it was literally on NPR. Biden is a staunch supporter of mass murder who has blood on his hands.

      Hexbear being full of tankies doesn’t make it ok to support genocide.

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        Apart from all the members of congress who remained seated, as was already mentioned. I’m guessing neither AOC nor Bernie Sanders stood up and applauded if they were there.

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          Yes, about half of Democrats weren’t applauding like seals. Half still were, which is unacceptable.

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              No one said it was unanimous. It was still hundreds of sitting members of congress, both democrats and republicans.

              And people do try to condemn the specific members of our government who support the genocide, like Joe Biden. And you know what happens? People like you pop-up and defend them and deflect.

              You literally just spent the entirety of yesterday trying to get me to shut up about condemning genocide support and talking about holding genocide supporters politically accountable.

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                No, I did not literally do that at all. In any way. That’s just a lie. I have never tried to get you or anyone else to shut up about condemning genocide.

                Why are you lying?

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          Yes, but Republicans are given. Half of Democrats also joined in, that’s the problem. The Democratic party needs to be in opposition to zionism like it’s meant to be opposed to every other form of fascism.

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            It’s not a given. Lemmy is under a constant barrage of comments only attacking Biden and the Dems for supporting Isreal and therefore genocide. The blame is only put on Biden and the Dems.

            Keeping perspective of how much worse the Republicans are in this specific regard if extremely imperious during this election. Being critical of the Dems is fine, but keeping the real context is vital.

            The objective of these users who only criticize the Dems is clear. Stop falling for it.

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                It’s split. Democrats control the presidency and sort of the senate, Republicans control the house and the supreme court.

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                They aren’t in charge, they aren’t even able to pass laws without republican support, and Republicans are so fractured they can’t even make salient policy objectives in exchange for support.

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          I didn’t equate voting dem as genocide support. If you vote for a zionist though, that is active support of genocide. In that situation you’re signaling to the party that it’s acceptable to have genocide supporters in the party, as long as the other option is “worse”.

          That’s a calculation you’re free to weigh for yourself, but it is still genocide support. Same way voting for an openly racist politician is in support of racism.

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            Have you not received your new talking points yet? Harris is not a zionist afaik.

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              Being opposed to genocide supporters is not a “talking point” it’s not a “trick”. Genocide is simply against the very core of my belief about how we’re meant to treat other human beings.

              So when a Democrat supports genocide, I want them out of the party and I see those who choose to ignore that candidates genocidal views as complicit themselves as well since they are responsible for putting that person into as position of power despite knowing the ugly truth. Hopefully that’s clear enough for you to allow yourself to understand. It’s very odd to have to spell it out like this for you though.

              Harris is not a zionist afaik.

              Harris does not appear to be ideological like Biden, that is true and a promising sign, but that’s not really related to the point I’m making – while zionists like Biden and his supporters do obviously help keep the slaughter going, one doesn’t necessarily have to be a committed zionist to help fuel the genocide. One could choose to do it for any number of reasons (ex. cowardice, political convenience etc.), we will see if Harris’ actions match up with her rhetoric. She doesn’t get an automatic pass on being a moral human being, this isn’t a cult of personality like the GOP.

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                That all makes it hard to say whether Harris would call herself a Zionist. But she has repeatedly expressed support for Israel’s existence as a Jewish state, favorably quoted from Herzl’s Zionist manifesto and raised money for the Jewish National Fund. source

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        I find it hilarious whenever I call them that they start wailing about homophobia, lol. Nobody insulted Eva Braun for sucking some guy off, the problem was that it was literally Hitler.

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      Ah yes, the truest sign of liberal enlightenment, casual homophobia,

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        Sucking cock is a fantastic thing to do for your fellow human, and a true friend loves and appreciates you for it.

        But sucking the cocks of dictators, that’s something sensible people everywhere disapprove of. Pretty much every dictator has awful anti-LGBT+ rhetoric and inhumane anti-LGBT+ policies.

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          Don’t be dense. The poster above me was using “cocksucker” as an insult, which is a go-to homophobic insult, and I called it out. There’s no nuance or subtlety or dictionary lawyering that perfectly clearly expressed sentiment into being anything other than what it is.

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            I used sucking the cock of dictators as an insult. Classic hexbear pos to remove all context to find some ground to shakily stand on.

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            Yes, but is there anything in what I said that you actually disagree with?

            See, I think we agree, it’s just that I’m being more light hearted about it than you are. Good cop, bad cop, that sort of thing. You’re all “you’re nasty homophobe!” and I’m all “heyy, man, you should appreciate the blow jobs, not hate on them! But blow jobs are not for dictators.”

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              “it’s just a joke! i’m just joking! you need to lighten up!”

              I never actually called you or anybody else a nasty homophobe, I called out a single comment for expressing a casual homophobic sentiment.

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                I think I’m frustrating you by being too flippant, and I didn’t mean to, so sorry about that.

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                You implied the person was being casually homophobic. If that’s not calling someone a homophobe idk what is. At least have the nerve to own it when you say it not backpeddle.

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          You do know that Netanyahu is friendly with Putin…right?

          https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2023-11-08/ty-article-opinion/.premium/why-is-israels-netanyahu-still-groveling-to-putin-and-russia/0000018b-af21-dea2-a9bf-ffbf3e0c0000

          Ever wonder why he talks like Donald Trump?

          Turns out you don’t actually care about “sucking dictator cock” after all, just trying to provide cover for your own right-wing mass murderer.

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            Did you confuse me for the shill? I agree, the false pearl clutching about cocksucker being a homophobic slur is just the same tactics right wing conservatives use to attack people and yes I did know Bibi and Putin are great buds.

            Israel’s genocide has done nothing but benefit Russia. The hexbear shills however are allowed to attack Israel, because that is useful to Putin, not that they have any morals.

            Are you one of them, is this a convoluted thread slide tactic?

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          see someone else get called out for a homophobic comment

          rush to their defense with even more homophobia

          I didn’t say anything about any political leader, dictator or democratic. I called out a single comment for being in poor taste, and ya’ll are showing your true colors in your responses to it.

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          “it’s not homophobia, it’s misogyny!” is not the defense of the above comment you think it is.

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            Recognizing that sex exists and people engage in it is neither homophobic nor misogynistic, chill the fuck out

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            Bruh. I meant that you assumed that cocksucking is exclusively done by gay men. So it’s actually neither. Calling someone a motherfucker doesn’t mean that they actually have sex with their mothers. Insults like these are usually detached from their literal meaning.

            Improve your reading comprehension skills. English is literally my third language.

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              The insult “cocksucker” did not fall out of a coconut tree. It exists in the context of all that has come before it, which in this case is decades of being the go-to insult of homophobes.